.agree

is this the most active room in Sargons server?

what? yeah it is

SargonofAkkad (Sparta)

ohhhh

so what are you guys then?

RP?

what is RP?

were you guys booted from the official, or just didn't like it?

oh, yeah that's gay

right

nice

well it looks like i'm in the right place afterall

thanks

yeah i've only been in another server and I'm getting too annoyed by the people in there. Gay af

oh are there strict rules to follow? I don't bother anyone unless they bother me

ok, well i'll talk if there's good people in here with something interesting to talk about

i'm not interested in reading rules 😃

yeah i'm good with no porn and gore

i'm a tame guy

do you guys talk about politics, or do you talk about red velvet pancakes?

nice. Yeah this other server is talking about the gayest things though

is it ok to say gay and things like that

yes Werlf. Even if they're not shit they're still not worth talking about

i've done political compass once

and was very close to center, one below and one to the left

I'm not a political guru, but basically I'm a Libertarian I suppose. Yeah I may have the definitions wrong, so maybe social lib

yeah neither of those, yet

yes Kawaii, but also everyones definitions aren't the same.

but basically I'm a normie. I'm not an irrational left wing nutbag and i'm not a white seperatist

if you made me choose between the two, i'd go for the latter

interesting kawaii. Who's language? I guess those that are heavily into politics, which I think is a trap in itself

or admit to not fully knowing, civil

I get what you're saying civil. For me, i'm interested in hearing what other people have to say. I've spoken with a few white supremacists, online, i find them interesting. I like to hear what people have to say and figuring things out as best I can. It's kind of entertainment

EU is going to be the next superpower. They want to get their EU army going

Kawaii, you're a pedant, nice

oh ok Fitz it is

there's such a thing as conservative or liberal mathematics?

First impressions of this server:- Friendly, informative, good use of the word nigga, pretty full on politically.

I might have to take a back seat because you guys appear to have actual knowledge

lol Fitz

humility, i like it

I legit think the outrage about being racist is way over blown

it's discussed as if it's worse than being a rapist or child abuser

when ultimately it's just an opinion, which we're all entitled to

sure, it can be ugly. Sure it can lead to discrimination, even violence.

But what you gonna do, punish people for how their brains function?

yeah. It's as if it's a normal aspect of humanity

lol, yes agreed

yeah

in groups, out groups, tribes etc

right. Well arguably that's still true

i'm referring to something I only really know the talking points of - but the whole immigrants effect the labour supply of the incumbant nation (I don't know how to say that correctly) and lower wages, particularly of those that are low skilled

it's a real argument

immigrants = newfags?

^ yeah

If you have 150 IQ, which I clearly don't, but if you did, wouldn't it be inevitable that you feel almost everyone is inferior to you.

@JohnStrasser That's kind of my point. That a lot of us are going to be inclined that others are inferior, for a multitude of reasons. We're judgemental pricks

@TwinVickers and they assign people and groups as alt right / right / far right with such vitriol. There's no respect for others opinion. There's hatred and fear of it.

@JohnStrasser Yes those terms are used as smoke grenades. I think there are a lot of tactics people use to avoid examining the topics at hand. We need to be strong to counter such push back

@JohnStrasser But you can teach your kids to be critical thinkers. You can encourage them to read and investigate. And you can do the opposite of those things

@TwinVickers Ricky Gervais has a new podcast? Link please

Also, I forget what alt right is too. It gets confusing. I think I share Alt Right views. But then people I watch consider themselves left of centre. Very confusing.

Also, I think outspoken Atheists are a bit weird. Like who cares that you don't believe in God. How important is that exactly.

@JohnStrasser I agree with your wheel comments. When I think of the western world I do view people as having the tools but just not using them. Myself included. I guess it's all on a spectrum.

nice, i'll check it out twin

@Fitzydog I've seen JBP saying that IQ is a subject that psychology has a very strong understanding of - or rather a subject in which it has a better understanding of than any other subject

should welfare have that much of an effect on a race's IQ?

I agree @JohnStrasser Very easy to make that argument. I mean it's a very distasteful argument, but rationally very easy to make.

@AlanPowell no, he's saying they improved too - via interbreeding

@JohnStrasser that's argued to still be the case - that blacks suffer more punishment for crime than whites

@Black Mage Spend your time with someone else

(other than your friend)

@JohnStrasser I don't find you annoying. I can see why others might find you abrasive, but you seem pretty reasonable to me

@Black Mage Defend rationality and fairness. Regretably it seems unrealistic for a government to do so consistently. But hey, I guess we just have to accept less than perfect

@Black Mage Isn't it fair to say that almost all politicians believe in platitudes and appeasement

@JohnStrasser was? you seem pessimistic

@JohnStrasser do you think he purposefully delayed pushing for a wall?

@Black Mage I think I know what you mean, and I if so I agree. Trump being elected gave me hope for rationality

@AlanPowell yeah I would agree with that, voting for Trump on principle, or on what I feel he represents - an antidote to leftist irrationality - which I feel pervades personalities and daily behaviour and is in no way limited to politics.

But for the record I live in Australia and my feelings are academic because of it

@JohnStrasser I heard recently that they used to view the Irish as being below the blacks. Virtually sub human. Why was that? (not a loaded question). But feel free to ignore to carry on your current conversation

@JohnStrasser an online shopping mall

@JohnStrasser oh that makes sense. That's a likely common catalyst for racism I guess

@Fitzydog Haven't there been a welfare state for 60 years or so attempting to fix such problems?

but that has been the purpose of the welfare systeme?

@TwinVickers that sounds like nice bread

@Fitzydog I can believe that.

Do you believe that the politicians concerned believe that?

@AlanPowell lol

@Fitzydog interesting. I read this yesterday...http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf

@AlanPowell I think John could counter that by saying that's the reason why their IQs didn't develop

@Fitzydog I think I know the guy you've just mentioned - i've seen a bit of what he says

@Fitzydog just found one - 1983 lecture, just under 3 hours - i'll give that one a crack

@Fitzydog US military will only accept people meeting a certain IQ requirement - I think 80

@Fitzydog oh that's interesting (statistics prior to welfare were showing a steady increase in IQ among blacks for the few decades prior)

@Fitzydog I think that's a little unfair. It's clear there were higher selective pressures within the blak community
because of things imposed on them by the white govt

that's what he's saying, isn't it

Jim Crow was for 60+ years?

@JohnStrasser this may be a crass analogy, but you're basically saying that the pressure that was faced by black communities was akin to turning rocks into diamonds.

And, as civil is saying, the welfare system came and acted as a pressure valve.

Thus they are now rocks

@TwinVickers I love this shit

what does the term grey mean?

@AlanPowell thanks. What does embed mean

@JohnStrasser you're a seperatist? you feel that whites / blacks should live in seperate communities / countries?

@AlanPowell thanks 😃