it keeps better things from being talked about.

as a scientist and engineer myself, i find N.D.T. to be a complete and utter fool and embarassment

and Bill Nye

NASA otoh I adore

to an extent

they are unwilling to step on big toes when their funding is tenuous

and they may be taking part in or knowingly allowing some hideous things to be done

not every member knows but that's like the CIA and NSA

not everyone at CIA knows what some agents are doing in latin america or ukraine for instance

not everyone at NSA took part in or would philosophically agree with the release of Equation Group

etc.

what

im just giving examples of how entire agencies aren't rotten, usually just specific members

to follow up what i said about NASA what

maybe we're desynched or st

*shrug*

why do i even have the student role? i didnt ask for it.

I haven't seen convincing evidence of an extraterrestrial presence near Earth or in our solar system. But I don't rule it out.

They could have been told to say that.

@yourLORD Not only could those missilemen been commanded or paid to say those things to serve some agenda, but, also, any person's testimony in any capacity as to sightings or close encounters doesn't converge with my own experience at any point (not even approaching infinity).

As I said: I haven't seen convincing evidence of an extraterrestrial presence near Earth or in our solar system. But I don't rule it out.

The film "The Arrival" tackles this subject pretty well imho. The scientists have to figure out how to form a shared basis for communication with a vastly different e.t. species.

The book "The Ambidextrous Universe" attempts to tackle this problem as well.

In The Ambidextrous Universe, it is concluded that a certain isotope of cobalt can be used because it always emits electrons from one pole relative to its spin.

From this you can say "in", "out", "left", "right", "up", "down", etc. and from basic 3 dimensional descriptions build up the rest of a shared language.

*a certain isotope of cobalt always emits *more* electrons from one pole than the other, relative to spin

...

I agree that it seems very improbable any E.T. would have [any] reason to come to this part of the galaxy. The only reason I can think of would be if they had been here before, or had discovered life here by accident, either originating here or having passed by looking for some kind of resource, or maybe having sent a probe through the area.

The book only touches on the talking with e.t. thought experiment cery briefly. Overall the book is about things like symmetry, chirality, handedness, convention, that sort of thing. It covers subjects from the micro to macroscopic, including galactic scale and universal scale, and in later editions I believe some subjects in quantum physics.

@darth_brando It may depend on the E.T. culture or even individual E.T. specimen. For instance, in some human cultures, we interact with some animals in an emotional way and treat them as having personalities. And some of us show more curiosity in this regard than others. There are people who ignore everything about, say, gorillas other than their fur and other exploitable taxidermy. And then there are the Jane Goodall types.

Meanwhile in other cultures, animals are just seen as brutal. They are nothing but food, or labor, or a nuisance.

um

So ... are we supposed to project only certain facets of a certain subset of all our human cultures from only a narrow time interval on E.T.'s everywhere? Not sure what we gain by that.

How does that reflect back on the probability of E.T. visiting this corner of the galaxy?

Oh I see. You are saying, no matter what, if they can make it here, then they either have no interest in us as a species or their interests are bad.

But, that doesn't clear up the probability of them interacting with us if they were here.

Q is a larp

\**was* a larp

Any futther ideas about the daily topic?

("who is Q")

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qult_Headquarters/comments/94n3sd/evidence_qanon_has_changed_hands_multiple_times/?utm_source=reddit-android

(from the above linked reddit post)

(humorous commentary on the quality of various groups who have controlled Q)

let's rehash what people on this server have said since @.𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓭 posed the daily topic:

@Dawn "Q is a psy op by trump's team, exposing the deep state. propaganda to reel in skeptics of trump."

@4Liberty "Q is working directly with Trump. the idea started in 1999."

@Trybal "it's a diversion tactic. read /x/ read /pol/. *what I did just now was common scepticism, how you distinguish my type of scepticism from a shill isn’t easy*... they're either very clever with an obvious agenda or a troll."

@Stevia "Q is a pleidian from 12D. full name ORITQ communicates with his twin soul, Ivanka Trump."

@tylerai "tyler the AI is Qanon"

@Post-LSD Swamp "Q anon is just some dorks doing a LARP. You can quote me on that."

That's where I am on it. @Post-LSD Swamp

lol

just quoting what people wrote

hey now

@Dawn there i fixed your quote

trybal, i included your quote "i am not a shill" because you felt important to put that out there.

despite as you said, nobody was calling you one.

@Trybal i fixed your quote

How do we look up stuff about L'enfant?

I'd like to "pass" on L'enfant.

It sounds like he was targeted by PLO (dunno how Mossad gets brought up) as a suspected CIA asset in the 70s. He opened a restaurant later and was garrassed either by the same people or by people who hate Lebanese. Who knows? he went crazy and started an antisemitic website.

what part of his story in particular do you feel needs more scrutiny?

what you linked uhh goes against that

it says he suspected them of beig PLO

they threatenned him to try and make him say he was CIA, in a Palesti ian refugee camp

you seem to be changing the story to be about Israelis

is it a less interesting story now

🙄

it sounds like he changed his mind

it would be cool if the topic didnt have a direct bridge to one of the server's big standbys, Muh JoOoOoz

Okay but I would put money on that's where it ends up.

I get it but five sentences in and the channel will be swamped with trolls.

I. get. it.

But.
This. server. man.

2.5 days

and ive seen enough ty

i had just come from the ice wall server and it also dominated chat there just as it turned out to here

oh straight to ad homs huh

i see

never fucking mind then

fuck it have fun with MuH jOoOoOz and other lolbrow shit

let's just wait and see what Chad posts it worked today

I like the assumption that it's hard to find a handfull of math minor graduates.

"The math is too complex . . . humans cannot do this. Maybe some real college type people, but not humans."

And yet I recall some students went out and did some crop circle stuff and talked about how they did it and it sparked kind of a renaissance.

``` To prove their case they made a circle in front of journalists; a "cereologist" (advocate of paranormal explanations of crop circles), Pat Delgado, examined the circle and declared it authentic before it was revealed that it was a hoax.[9][34][35] Inspired by Australian crop circle accounts from 1966, Bower and Chorley claimed to be responsible for all circles made prior to 1987, and for more than 200 crop circles in 1978–1991 (with 1000 other circles not being made by them).[10][36] After their announcement, the two men demonstrated making a crop circle. According to Professor Richard Taylor, "the pictographs they created inspired a second wave of crop artists. Far from fizzling out, crop circles have evolved into an international phenomenon, with hundreds of sophisticated pictographs now appearing annually around the globe."[10]```

Odd
Nobody has brought up the other time in the Biblr where the number 666 occurs.

In ghe description of Solomon's great talent, fame, and weath:

1 Kings 10:14 14The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents,

2 Chronicles 9:13 13The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents,

I have heard that in the old base-6 counting system in Babylon, saying 666 would be like us saying 9,999 or so.

That it was meant to be a kinda sorta big but not too big number.

Really though in base-6, "666" only comes out to 216

This is base-6 without a placeholder btw.

So 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12 13 14 15 16 21 22 etc...

I have also heard a physics explanation of 666, that says 6 represents Carbon, and repeating it three times suggests mind, body, and soul are completely basic or something like that. But derogatory implications of 666 in Revelation don't match with the celebratory implication of 666 in description of Solomon's wealth.

My own theory is that in all likelihood, 666 in Revelation is purposefully that same number as the earlier biblical 666 referencing Solomon's income, for the express purpose of fomenting antisemitism.

If you believe in christ and in Revelations as holy canon, then of course the interpretation is that Jews are bad in the end times.

And clearly when John of patmos wrote revelation he wrote it as a [christian] scholar.

Well not Bible per say. But Torah, Talmud, and scripture.

And probably lots of other tracts.

Were else does 666 occur besides descriptions of solomon's wealth? And are we going to discount its earlier appearance entirely?

Right? I brought up the Carbon thing because it can seem connected 6 ways from Sunday.

Oh it looks lile Chad already brought it up earlier.

I have to find a plug for my phone

i do remember reading that 666 isnt the correct number in any case. that it was actually 616?

it just seems lile such an unreliable subject matter. john of patmos was considered to be out of his mind and a blasphemer by some. which is why revelation isn't in the canon, it's in the apocrypha.

this doesnt stop modern man from making use of modern translations of his writing. ill post a video

https://youtu.be/-2lUVv695wg