I guess not

after all, moderation is a construct of the capitalist class

its an unjutified heirarchy

precisely, comrade

true

i literally just joined and im already loving this

oof

so what ideology are y'all?

im ansynd personally

nice

anyway, im gonna go to bed, i shoulda done that an hour ago

solidarity

ill try not to lol

but yeah, Bakunin is pretty lit

I like Kropotkin a bit more tho

how so?

I dont remember any anti-semite works from him

really?

the more u know

wow, i suddenly hate Bakunin

thanks dude

yeah

im still a liiiiiitle new to far-left politics, like I've read a good bit but at the end of the day Im still learning a lot

right now im reading theory and practice of anarcho syndicalism

nice @Todd"ItWillWorkNextTime"Howard

lol

Chomsky is bae

but fr tho guys, i should head to bed

i got school tomorrow

or well, in like 6 hours

night dude

So I've been reading Theory and Practice of Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolf Rocker, and I came across a concept of his that I haven't seen before in anarcho syndicalism. That being Labor Cartels. I haven't seen it much before when I hear others talk about Anarcho Syndicalism, and I'd like to hear another source on it, and maybe more details on it-- because Rocker only goes into a page or two into detail about it.

also, big oof @Killamune

all is forgiven comrade

yeah, i havent seen it before myself

lel

i think the name is terrible too

people would just associate them with drug cartels

true tho

lol no im not a kaiserriech normie

I came across it before, i just saw kaiserriech after

but from what I understand, it sounds like labor cartels are a way to regionally group trade unions, and said labor cartels would organize things like:
1. How much of x resource we need to produce

2. education/propaganda

3. Class unity

which is pretty broad, and a little weird to me

yeah, i could see that

the trade unions just provide more stability than the cartles

in my opinion at least

like I agree that said unions need to federate, but these cartels are too general and too hard to organize I think

I guess thats debatable

but im in favor of the trade unions

i mean, anarchists love some direct democracy, i think thats incentive enough

and by making a directly democratic federation, itll provide more stability to the anarchist society while keeping the freedom

plus, its a justified heirarchy, because it's, well, directly democratic

id say so

but nowadays trade unions kinda plummited in quality and popularity after the dang old 1930s or so

no, heirarchy is real, and its everywhere, anarchists just wanna get rid of unjustified heirarchy

in my opinion, trade unions dropped off after the 1930s (especially in the US) after some reforms were earned and WW2 came around, so anarchism and trade unionism became a thing of the psat

"Heirarchy is non existant in the eyes of anarchists"

u did lol

but your revised statement is true

i guess you just mistyped, it happens to us all

😉

meh, I still think anarchists see heirarchy everywhere

you can see lots of us anarchists going on and on about unjustified heirarchy

so i mean, we think its real tho

oof, are we gonna talk philosophy now?

because then we'll start asking what "real" is

itll get messy

a justified heirarchy? a direct democracy, where the people give *direct* power to a position

exactly @Deleted User, thats why id prefer not to argue about if heirarchies are real or not, because we both agree that they are real

also @Onlyinmizzou who are u calling a newfag?

cuz i kinda am, i just joined this server yesterday lel

so if anything call me a newfag

thats a full year wow

well @Deleted User, those anarchists u were talking to might've been talking about people elected in borgeoiuse democracy

(also chill on my spelling of borgeiouse i know its autistic)

no matter how many times i see that word i cant spell it for the life of me

hm.

so my theory was wrong there.

but then again, i've only been able to hear the opinions of *some* anarchists, so perhaps my concescus of what anrachists want is a bit out of touch. I've always wanted to meet more anarchists, but I haven't been able to find any

brb my chicken tendies are ready

no im joking lel

itsa gooda meme

but for real tho, i guess I am tunnel visioned, because I'm still kinda new to the far-left. I only became an An-Synd in, like, September.

and I've been reading what I can get my hands on, but there's still plenty I don't know

but hell, at least im not a bernie sanders normie

i mean, most of an-synd rhetoric is economic, with some political aspects with forming our directly-democratic federation, so social aspects like that aren't nearly a big deal. Personally though, I don't have much of an opinion, I don't see why a changing demographic is that big of a deal.

now if you were, say, a strasserist, or part of the nazbol gang thats a different story

it might change the way that cultures operate and what kind of cultural values are in play, but I doubt that a few demographic changes can reshape society as a whole

i mean, most societal reconstructions come from science

for instance, the industrail and agricultural revolutions

industrial*

jesus christ my spelling

lol I know, I try my best to talk to people but I'm the most radical guy at my school tbh, and everybody talks to *me* about the far-left, so I personally dont have any good local sources to learn about the far left because others rely on me as said source

but if u know a good way to talk/meet up with anarchists etc. that would be great @Onlyinmizzou

also @Deleted User I did imply that different races act differently through different cultures, but I doubt that having a different culture take control would call for a radical reconstruction of society at large

I think thats a bit of a leap

Thats an interesting philosophy, but I think that our environments (and by extension our culture) has a much greater influence on us

like, white people in a mostly black culture will act in accordance witha black culture @Deleted User