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So is the idea to start a new city, or to kind of take over an existing one?

What does any of this have to do with the future?

I dont think its getting a gf, its convincing her of the plan that is the issue

Ive dated redpilled girls too, but moving across the country to start a society is a pretty big pill to swallow

Maybe just move and then get a girl from the local area???

Im from Florida so a move to the PNW would be quite the commitment

So dont trust @TheWorldsOnBlue ?

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@dmac100 Is the idea to start a new town or move into an existing one?

I feel like the whole infrastructure thing would be helpful though, right?

Power lines, pipe systems

@ram3n Its really fucking expensive though

@ram3n yea

I think water based power would be the most useful; falling water yields power, water can be pumped and cleaned for irrigation and consumption

@dmac100 Dont need a dam, just siphon off water from a lake or river

@_CREWMAN and who will fix the panels when the break or get old? The society would need a stable and hardy power source, solar is neither

What degree would be useful for this kind power?

@dmac100 I dont mean to be able to fix stuff, I mean to be able to build from scratch and improve it

Conventional hydroelectric, referring to hydroelectric dams.
Run-of-the-river hydroelectricity, which captures the kinetic energy in rivers or streams, without a large reservoir and sometimes without the use of dams.
Small hydro projects are 10 megawatts or less and often have no artificial reservoirs.
Micro hydro projects provide a few kilowatts to a few hundred kilowatts to isolated homes, villages, or small industries.
Conduit hydroelectricity projects utilize water which has already been diverted for use elsewhere; in a municipal water system, for example.
Pumped-storage hydroelectricity stores water pumped uphill into reservoirs during periods of low demand to be released for generation when demand is high or system generation is low.
Pressure buffering hydropower use natural sources (waves for example) for water pumping to turbines while exceeding water is pumped uphill into reservoirs and releases when incoming water flow isn't enough.

Which would be best?

@dmac100 Im thinking large scale, like powering the city

@!papa me too, Im a Certified Nursing Assistant trained in CPR/AED and first aid

I can stitch and do some basic shit but I cant do surgery

@Orchid Is there a list of jobs/skills on here? And if so can we add to it?

Division of labour, who will do what

I know, its a society and any society beyond Mesopotamia uses division of labour

If you want this to be bigger than 50 people you will need to accommodate people with skills outside of farming and hunting

A society is more then just plowing the field

Education, medicine, security, energy are all needed

@dmac100 I know, at first it will obviously be bare bones. But im talking about the long run, about sustainability

@!papa This.

Vets? Docs? Electrical techs?

Look all Im saying is eventually the society is going to get larger and there will be a surplus of people, not everyone will need to farm

@!papa I dont think we are shunning tech

@Mercer and who would run that?

Meant install

I dont know that kind of stuff

I can do medical shit at a sumwhat scrub tier

@dmac100 I agree with you too, I just think we need a wider base to get more people

@_CREWMAN I thought you were joking

Plenty of water for hydropower

@dmac100 what kind of shit are we growing? Mass produce wheat for a shit load of food?

and alaska has excellent hunting to make up for the smaller growing season

I think a more hospitable climate would be best

@Mercer Meat as in hunting or livestock?

@ram3n do it for the people

So how many have experience with farming? I cant farm but I can hunt

and goats

are people making lists on this shit?

@dmac100 use wool from sheep

Gotta bounce guys, cya later

Howdy gents

Any progress on a potential area for the settlement?

hmm, ok

would we want an area with sea access or no?

How about parts of canada or like Idaho?

lol, on second thought maybe not

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What about Oregon? Too far south?

Well the land needs water (lakes or rivers) and natural defense like hills or mountains

@dmac100 Thats true, we have the technology

How about Winthrop WA. Its got big rivers and some nice hills and forests

gov has all those national forests blocking the good land...

What if we pooled money and purchased a huge swath of land in one big bite then divide it later?

@Orchid Winthrop has a pop of 2000

it also has that huge fucking river going right through it

No, im a florida boy

middle but technically south on the east coast

What if we used pumps to drain water from the bottom terrace and pump it back up to the top so the water is flowing?

I agree with @dmac100 , we shouldnt be wasting cash on boxed in property

http://www.landwatch.com/Whitley-County-Kentucky-Land-for-sale/pid/25022525

look at that

I dont mean that property specifically but thats what I think we should be looking for, Big single properties to keep the community together

Ight check this one in Washington http://www.landwatch.com/Stevens-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/25072934

http://www.landwatch.com/Walla-Walla-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/3531466

Its 1740 acres

How much land would a group of people need?

Oh shit, FOUND IT

http://www.landwatch.com/Walla-Walla-County-Washington-Land-for-sale/pid/25005394

Its 300 acres of farmland with nice rolling hills

Down payment on the future lol

@dmac100 I know what you mean about the land values, land is WAY cheaper in the states you listed

and if we arent using sea access then why do we need to be in the PNW, wouldnt any land in the mainland be usable?

Land is so cheap elsewhere though...

Im gonna go start my own group! With blackjack... and hookers!

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How about this place in Oregon

http://www.landwatch.com/Malheur-County-Oregon-Land-for-sale/pid/25083020

I thought <#363749894802112513> was for when it was actually decided where it would be

http://www.landwatch.com/Grant-County-Oregon-Land-for-sale/pid/25074361

Trees, running water, and roads

hmm, I'll keep searching; going offline for now

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What about the 7 cardinal virtues? @white sharia mobster

Its the opposite of the 7 deadly sins, essentially if you dont want to be tempted to sin then you live by the 7 virtues

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This could be very useful for a group of people

https://energy.gov/energysaver/microhydropower-systems