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I enjoyed this, for some reason
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wot
Wtf is that shirt
xD
Can it be "I jack off to burnie and socialism/cummunism and prolly touch myself at night shirt"
wot is this
Sweden??
oooooo!!!! *Freevalve*....
I'm just waiting for freevalve to finally come to more mainstream cars
Koenigsegg says theyre trying to do that.
That Chinese company Qoros is doing it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qoros
NO Cams
eat shit civic ricers
where we are going
we don't need tuning
Yeah, I mean, electronics are definitely responsible for making cars more reliable
I totally want electronic systems controlling valves
what could go wrong?
It's no different than your fuel injection being controlled by a Hall Effect sensor on the crank.
I don't think faulty fuel injection or crank sensors can wreck your engine
It's still mechanically connected, I believe. It's just the individual cylinders can be adjusted. The most that would happen in a failure is some pinging in a cylinder, which would throw a code and put you into limp mode.
Plus while it is electronically cintrolled, its not electric motors or some shit
Pneumatics
Think of it like being able to adjust the spring rate of your rockers
Your computer would have to be either pretty slow or pretty stupid for faulty freevalve to ruin the engine
if it fails and a valve is in the wrong position when the cylinder returns and it has no signal to adjust, the valve will stay in place and it's basically like what happens if a cam belt or chain stretches/snaps, your shit would be fucked
I don't think that's how it works
Besides, dont most modern engines die when that hapoens for that reasin?
the peak reliability of cars seems to have been 80s and 90s depending on manufacturer, electronics since have made cars less reliable, though there's some question whether the increased requirements in efficiency have also contributed to the lower reliability
Reason
It's still a non-interference engine like any other, but instead of ALL the cylinders being adjusted with VV-T, it's individual cylinders
The increased emissions requirements is most of it, i would say.
I doubt the freevalve engine is non interference
Considering yiu still have shit like, fir example, the million mile toyota tundra, cars are at worst just as reliable.
Depending on mfg
very few modern engines are able to be non interference because of efficiency requirements
I wouldnt call a modern fca car more reliable...
I'm not sure if any regular cars on sale are non interference actually
Well, it seems the conversation won't be fruitful and is just some more competitive pissing, so w/e
^
Most arguments about reliablity become that, really
There isnt a whole lot of hard data on car reliability. Best you have is iffy af surveys
well that's because reliability can often be highly subjective
owners and how they treat their vehicles contribute to failure rates
and it's very hard to adequately monitor that
but in general, the old hilux, a bunch of 80s and early 90s benzes, late 90s jap N/A 4cyls are all ridiculously reliable
like, terrifyingly so
but there's also basically nothing to actually go wrong on them
And there are engines, newer ones, where this remains the case
See the vortec 6
the newer vehicles are so loaded down with craptastic bullshit that tons of shit can just die
Toyota 4.0
Etc
Emissions is undoubtedly to blame for much of it
Easiest to see with the big truck diesels actually
well yes and no, it's also safety, it's also bullshit features nobody really needs
Rock solid reliable until 2007. Then instant shit
They are only now getting reliable again
But that people want
Thats the important thing
Markets follow demand
because they don't realise the cost of the features is reduced reliability
information failure on the part of the average consumer
Depends on how much they value reliability, too
Not all busted things make a car inoperable
no, but they may make it unsafe or unsellable
But this is turning into another rabbit hole
especially with the cost of repairs to dumb stuff like ABS often exceeding the value of the car for ~10 year old vehicles
and ABS is literally a feature for retards who don't know how to use their brakes in poor conditions
K
some years ago I had to break a jag because the ABS failed, with working ABS the car was worth maybe 2k, the replacement unit was something like 800 at the time and the car was worth 1800 in parts
so ultimately cars are taken off the road because of bullshit features that people who know how to drive don't need, it's wasteful
Best build
...wait did i post this already?
yeah, I wasn't a fan really but to each their own
more suvs just what the world needs...
Well it is clearly what the world _wants_
VW group makes bank on these things
Hell, porsche had their highest profit margins ever just a few years ago because of the Cayenne and Macan
sad
part of me can't wait for driverless cars so the car industry basically dies
with all the bs emissions shit out there I'm surprised they haven't started to fuck suvs over hard
Eh.
Not getting into that argument
Perhaps not...
https://youtu.be/UF5j1DvC954
it's a shame diesels will probably be banned for non commercial vehicles in Europe within 20 years
wich is sad, as the new diesel engines are almost in the negative emissions at least on trucks
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