Message from @LOGiK

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2018-07-22 18:57:16 UTC  

oooooo!!!! *Freevalve*....

2018-07-22 18:59:07 UTC  

I'm just waiting for freevalve to finally come to more mainstream cars

2018-07-22 18:59:20 UTC  

Koenigsegg says theyre trying to do that.

2018-07-22 19:04:07 UTC  

That Chinese company Qoros is doing it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qoros

eat shit civic ricers

where we are going

we don't need tuning

2018-07-22 20:33:28 UTC  

Yeah, I mean, electronics are definitely responsible for making cars more reliable

2018-07-22 20:33:38 UTC  

I totally want electronic systems controlling valves

2018-07-22 20:33:42 UTC  

what could go wrong?

2018-07-22 20:37:03 UTC  

It's no different than your fuel injection being controlled by a Hall Effect sensor on the crank.

2018-07-22 20:40:54 UTC  

I don't think faulty fuel injection or crank sensors can wreck your engine

2018-07-22 20:43:47 UTC  

It's still mechanically connected, I believe. It's just the individual cylinders can be adjusted. The most that would happen in a failure is some pinging in a cylinder, which would throw a code and put you into limp mode.

2018-07-22 20:44:20 UTC  

Plus while it is electronically cintrolled, its not electric motors or some shit

2018-07-22 20:44:24 UTC  

Pneumatics

2018-07-22 20:44:47 UTC  

Think of it like being able to adjust the spring rate of your rockers

2018-07-22 20:45:42 UTC  

Your computer would have to be either pretty slow or pretty stupid for faulty freevalve to ruin the engine

2018-07-22 20:45:49 UTC  

if it fails and a valve is in the wrong position when the cylinder returns and it has no signal to adjust, the valve will stay in place and it's basically like what happens if a cam belt or chain stretches/snaps, your shit would be fucked

2018-07-22 20:46:11 UTC  

I don't think that's how it works

2018-07-22 20:46:39 UTC  

Besides, dont most modern engines die when that hapoens for that reasin?

2018-07-22 20:46:42 UTC  

the peak reliability of cars seems to have been 80s and 90s depending on manufacturer, electronics since have made cars less reliable, though there's some question whether the increased requirements in efficiency have also contributed to the lower reliability

2018-07-22 20:46:43 UTC  

Reason

2018-07-22 20:47:07 UTC  

It's still a non-interference engine like any other, but instead of ALL the cylinders being adjusted with VV-T, it's individual cylinders

2018-07-22 20:47:13 UTC  

The increased emissions requirements is most of it, i would say.

2018-07-22 20:47:42 UTC  

I doubt the freevalve engine is non interference

2018-07-22 20:47:44 UTC  

Considering yiu still have shit like, fir example, the million mile toyota tundra, cars are at worst just as reliable.

2018-07-22 20:47:48 UTC  

Depending on mfg

2018-07-22 20:47:58 UTC  

very few modern engines are able to be non interference because of efficiency requirements

2018-07-22 20:48:02 UTC  

I wouldnt call a modern fca car more reliable...

2018-07-22 20:48:32 UTC  

I'm not sure if any regular cars on sale are non interference actually

2018-07-22 20:48:39 UTC  

Well, it seems the conversation won't be fruitful and is just some more competitive pissing, so w/e

2018-07-22 20:48:48 UTC  

^

2018-07-22 20:49:24 UTC  

Most arguments about reliablity become that, really

2018-07-22 20:49:51 UTC  

There isnt a whole lot of hard data on car reliability. Best you have is iffy af surveys

2018-07-22 20:50:09 UTC  

well that's because reliability can often be highly subjective

2018-07-22 20:50:23 UTC  

owners and how they treat their vehicles contribute to failure rates

2018-07-22 20:50:31 UTC  

and it's very hard to adequately monitor that

2018-07-22 20:51:11 UTC  

but in general, the old hilux, a bunch of 80s and early 90s benzes, late 90s jap N/A 4cyls are all ridiculously reliable