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there are records of people with the same name, but it was a very common name
something like turning water to wine was probably noteworthy enough to mention *somewhere*
The Jews also recorded it.
>Paul R. Eddy has stated that as Rome's preeminent historian, Tacitus was generally known for checking his sources and was not in the habit of reporting gossip.
whoops.
nearly forgot to vote
probably says something about the general enthusiasm for this election tho
@Durtle02 "bullshit!!!!"
Lol
how the fuck does it have 9k likes
they can say whatever they want, and then they can do whatever they want (even if it contradicts what they told you) without you knowing what the hell they're doing
that's what a private company can do, I will never understand americans
Yeah! Trust us, we're Comcast, you have our word ๐
Comcast is senpai
Comcast : Bend over
I just upgraded to 1gb internet for 70
Its not all bad
There wouldnt be a problem If there were many ISP in a region
I just think is is a massive overreaction
There will be cons and pros
Gotchya, Dan ๐
There are legitimate conserns
But NN was only in place for two years
The ISP acted like there was NN before it was passed in 2015
I havent seen any fracturing before it was made official
that's probably not accurate - what you should say is "we presume ISPs acted like there was NN before 2015", because american ISPs/telecoms were actively engaged in lobbying to _stop_ net neutrality being implemented in europe from 2004 and onwards until it was enacted around 2011
NN is protected here in Europe
The image you have senn about paying differentry forsocial media apps is for mobile data foe wich NN doesnt apply
Good, because nobody uses mobile data for internet access.
Yet
I keep seeing people arguing in favour of NN because "there's only one ISP in my area and-" but noone seems to have asked why there's only one ISP in their area. I might do some digging myself, but off the cuff it really wouldn't surprise me if a government organisation were at least partially responsible for that, be it at state, local, or federal level. For all the internet problems we have in my country, a lack of choice between ISPs is rarely one of them
You need the government's permission to lay wires around the land.
Also, now that the government has *less* influence in the mobile telco department, it's cheaper to ditch your landline phone and just use your mobile phone for local, state and even international calls
Mobile is easier on the infrastucture
The permission to build infrastructure often comes with exclusivity guarantees. As in, you won't have to spend your own money digging up pipes to burrow wires, only to have your competitor use the same pipes for his wires.
I'm also saying the government isn't playing favourites amongst the service providers in the mobile telco marketplace, or at least not to the extent that they are in other areas
That's why usually the duopoly is internet-by-phone-line or internet-by-cable.
Wires should be used like pipes
I still remember when an ISP approached my parents, who managed a townhouse complex in Sydney, with the opportunity to connect NBN cable to their complex
Parents agreed
Lay them down then let them be used by any company who pays for maintanence
Same thing with poles, for plebs using above-ground wiring.
Then NBNco, a government-owned corporation, barged in and basically declared "you can't do that! that's *our* job!"
this must've been around... whew.. 2011? I'd have to ask them next time I see them
But anyway
basically, no NBN for several more years
Entire thing has been a fucking debacle
Pretty sure Gold Coast city council has somehow managed to politick their way into laying their own NBN cable (HFC) because of how long NBNCo is taking to do it, and they want it all sorted out before the Commonwealth Games next year
Either way it doesnt concern me. NN is protected in Europe
Are you saying Europe has it's own codified law or..
he means EU, of course
It is codified
it was enacted in 2011 in the EU, like I said earlier
it was enacted in 2011 in the EU, like I said earlier
Just like roaming with mobile?
Yep
That was enacted this year i think
The companies were ripping us off
I'd like to see a copy of it
Now there is a proposal to end geoblocking
Because I wouldn't be surprised if certain exceptions were made
ta
Posting a source <:next_level:382980753270505473>
3am here
so shall read a little later
suffice to say that I am v e r y skeptical of the government riding in on a white horse when it comes to these issues
but I'm willing to give it a fair shake
no problem
I uderstand your position on it
the EU should be burned to the ground at this point, but the legislation they've enacted for consumer protection is stronger than anything in the world
both things can be true at the same time
The best consumer protection we have
2 years waranty
14 days to return anything without reason
well I was mostly talking about data retention policies and net neutrality and privacy issues, so that's my bad with regards to wording
I realise there are better warranties by law in individual countries
There also was the cookie law
that's just hilarious I think :-P I wonder if it has had any actual "good" effects
Mostly annoying
from what I can see, people either don't understand that the "popup/under bar" is not part of the website and just ignore it as screen-spam, or they click "OK" before reading it
I understand it, and I still consider it screen-spam
Cookie law?
You have to give information to the user that you use cookies on your website
Ahh
I was thinking baked goods
<:think_woke:378717098681171988>
Is there a philosophy channel?
philosophy is for the gays
and pedos
Maybe we need a #thunkery for more serious discussions.
#we-came-we-saw-we-thunk
Philosophy is pseudoscience
wut
We got every science from philosophy
It was the first science we had
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