Ok

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/jan/21/jordan-peterson-self-help-author-12-steps-interview

`I like how that article posts exactly what proponents of c-16 say it doesn't do`

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/the-curious-star-appeal-of-jordan-peterson/

Worth clicking through, Douglas Murray wrote it

https://www.t-nation.com/opinion/women-in-ground-combat

`Getting yourself and other people killed should also not be the unintended consequence of politically-motivated employment policy. Once again: IF the job has quantifiable physical requirements, THEN the job should have quantifiable hiring criteria based on objectively assessed levels of required physical performance.`

this is self-evident to 97% of the public

and the fact that people have to spend time on this issue, writing articles, talking about it, whatever, is an outrage

I'm fine with it along as the keep the women separate

how the fuck does that relate to what I said

you're fine with what?

I'm agreeing with you

IF they are going to have women, they get their own units

well that's an entirely different conversation though

but I disagree

there are plenty of positions in any military that women can fill, but I will not agree to having separate infantry/seal/etc units for women

nor lowering the standards of the existing units to allow women, or betamales to serve

`Now, it may be determined that an all-female unit is a viable entity on the battlefield. That way, apples are being compared to apples. "Diversity" is promoted across the service, while at the same time eliminating the problems of sexual diversity within a unit, and equality is preserved. If we, as a society, are prepared to deal with the consequences of the potential defeat of an all-female unit under our flag and our command, fine. That's a separate question.

Conversely, we may determine that not all members of an integrated unit must be able to do all of the physical tasks the members of the unit might be called upon to perform under battlefield circumstances. For example, women never ever have to carry the machine gun. That's the rule, dammit, and it just doesn't matter what's actually necessary right now, because of diversity.`

we are not prepared for that at all, which is another thing that is entirely self-evident to anyone who pays attention

society is not prepared to handle the massacre of a female unit

Well you can't have a mixed unit that's a liability. Guys are gunna white knight subconciously

>female squad gets wiped

Feminists: OMG WHY DIDN'T ANYONE HELP THEM? WHY WEREN'T ANY OF THE MEN PROTECTING THEM

n00b team wtf

isis: gg ez

https://theincredibletide.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/kurdish-girls-soldiers-cover.jpg

Bullets are a social construct.

Women can fire bullets too

https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/955831268243107841

I can imagine - without really knowing the real strains of it - that women might be just as capable as men in the kind of trench warfare of the first world war

https://www.thelocal.se/20180123/five-convicted-over-shooting-and-stabbing-murders-in-stockholm-suburb

"five men", that is to say, muslim immigrants

if you pad out the story laid out in that article, it's horrendous

surprisingly long sentences

How sexist of them to identify their genders. Did they assume they were men or did they ask for their pronouns?

I mean just the first sentence of the article contains a story

"The first murder happened in January 2017, when a man was shot in a garage where he was present with six people known to him, then later shot again after his car was rammed off the road while he attempted to make his way to hospital."

so they shot him in the garage, and he managed to escape, and somehow operate a vehicle

and drive towards a hospital

and they chase him in another car, somehow get him to stop

>Munir Nooraldin
>Amir Jabbari Taklar
>Fouad Saleh
>Mikael Chamounr

by presumably ramming the car?

and then execute him

as a Dane, I can confirm those are ethnically Swedistani names

>The first murder happened in **January 2017**
>Saleh along with his accomplices broke into a couple's home near the garage in **March**

Wait, how long did it take to arrest them?

apparently longer than two months

`subsequent double murder of a couple in the same suburb`, and that "read also:" linked article explains: `He and his wife, 40, were killed the day before he was scheduled to appear in court`

so presumably that couple had witnessed these guys in the first murder?

So wait a second, they didn't know they were suspects? Or they don't arrest suspect murderers?

the story says there was at least one witness to the shooting that was killed

in March

the woman was not a witness, as far as I can gather

she was probably just at home when they were planning to kill the witness, who was her husband/boyfriend

yea

First murder happens in January, it's investigated, they have a witness, can name the suspects. To me, the reasonable next step is to detain the suspects.

Not let them roam free until their murder trial.

also, how did they know where the witness lived?

they might have been off the grid, though that's hard these days

ID?

"ID"?

it's possible they also knew eachother

yes but then the witness is an idiot for not getting the fuck out of dodge, I can't believe that without any evidence

>had been a witness to the earlier shooting after seeing several people he **recognised** flee from the scene

if he knows these people, and knows they have not been arrested

jeez

I'll see if I can find a swedish source that says a bit more

u sven?

no, but I understand it

yes me too

doh, paywall on the first hit :p

life in prison, look at that remorse

is that one of them?

yeah, that's Fouad Saleh, I believe

Well hey

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/brottscentralen/har-ar-de-fem-domda-mannen-i-mordharvan/

at least they didn't use a grenade

don't know how much of a rag this is, though

that's progress

but it has some info

ye

"Den 22 januari 2017 sköts en man i Sundbyberg. Han lyckades fly i bil men mördarna hann ikapp och sköt ihjäl honom nära Karolinska universitetssjukhuset."

..

so the first man "succeeded in fleeing in a car", and they caught up with him near the hospital

Did they find out the motive for the first murder?

"säger att han skulle bli "mycket arg" om han döms", lmfao

Mikael Chamoun "says that he will be very angry, if he is sentenced"

yeah I have swedish articles on svt.se for both incidents now, there's no motive mentioned for the first guy in january

but apparently what happened was he was shot in a garage, and then managed to escape, and get in a friends car, who drove him towards the hospital

the assailants caught up with them and shot him again

executed him

yeah, the videos only mention the motive for the second killing, but only based on guesses, as the guy says he hadn't planned on killing the couple.

though I agree it's because he wanted to silence the witness

or take revenge

obviously, yes

no mention of anything gang related?

anyway, what a story

Copenhagen has some trouble with immigrant gangs, with more than 400 arrests last year, iirc.

saw a recent story of some immigrant who works as a baker, had his bakery trashed by one of these gangs repeatedly

blew up on social media, now people have donated more than the equivalent of 60k US$ to him to start up anew