not abolition of property

regulated markets

Oh. So the state will be in charge of what people do with their property and money, and will, at their discretion, change how you behave with it?

regulated with an eye to protecting tradition in a world that leftist are trying to subvert it

@Deleted User cares more about winning a conversation that having an equal footing with other people.

Not just to a minor degree, but as a matter of central planning?

Like they are now

Well, we have central planning, what fascism would introduce is a moral standard to prevent degeneracy and promote traditionalism

lol we dont have central planning?

You guys are living in la la land

Boy I'm confused.

Yes, the social aspect would be the most "oppressive" compared to now

Like I said, I think it's a semantic issue, but to me directing people's behavior morally, and allowing them to do what they want with their property are contradictory views.

yes, you already ahve limits on what you can do, not sure why you cant recognize that

Why pretend otherwise

I love the vaginal moanings of fashies

you cant buy what you want, and do what you want

you're not being serious

So you would describe things like "You're not allowed to sell an exploding 'hoverboard'" as an example of a centrally directed vision for the moral control of the market?

I can see the fumes coming from the bot @Jab

You cant have porn in the library would be an easy example of morals implemented in todays society

there are so few examples

now

no porn section

Its that kind of thing

would be elaborated on

You wouldnt have gay pride parades

Yes thats a good poster of how things used to be understood

with fascism a third way emerged

“Third way”

So entrepreneurship is encouraged, unless you're a gay pride parade organizer, then your business gets scuttled?

lol yes

@Deleted User social liberalism, yes

Sorry for you

No gay pride parade bucks

"muh freedom!"

But when I said 'the government gets to take what it wants when it wants,' you said no.

Uhuhhhhh

Yes, a rule against something is not "whimsy"

you are describing whimsy "when it wants"

So I was tryign to avoid your dumb strawman

You're life is a auto-biography of a strawman

"laws wont have to be decided and then laws wont be predictable and have all the facets of a system, under fascism"

You are morbidly retarded.

Ah. That's the problem. I didn't mean to imply whimsy. I meant to imply unchecked authority.

"they take my gay pride bucks, all of a sudden whenever they want"

no.

If I wanted a lecture I’d go watch a JBP video

Not listen to your vaginal moanings

Look at Russia, for example, they banned gay pride parades.

You fuckers talking down to other people trying to have an equally-footed discussion of ideas are not worth giving any attention.

they passed a law

"laws will be passed in fascism....omfg you liar!"

you're just not being serious

You lost me.

You think fascism means no legistlative body?

@Mercury he’s just attacked a strawman

That’s all

exactly

Because he can’t make arguments

I attacked the strawman I was being assigned with

Im jus trying to help you to understand it

YOu dont want to, you're indoctrinated into muh capitalism

Maybe you're dwelling on the 'unchecked' bit. I meant 'unconstrained'

Not 'unreviewed'

Capitlaism is not necessarily a facet of liberalism.

Then stop using the products of capitalism @Deleted User

Why would there be no constraint, there's no meta political laws? no constitution? come on. You're just not thinking.

Yeah. No limits on power.

Why would there be no limits?

I just told you limits

No that's what I'm asking.

I'm not telling you what fascism is. You're the expert here.

I describe a bunch of limits, for example I described traditioanlism, and you take that to mean nothing

why

You dont know what traditionalism is, thats why

Well, I told you it cant undermind whats best for the nation, and you take that to mean "anything goes"

catching on?

The understanding I have from what you're giving me is basically 'Powerful people can decide to do literally anything.'

He’s not refuting that point

Why do you think that, I literally said nothing like that.

I'm probably just dense.

Nah

Why don't you tell me what the limits would be?

I explained at the beginning, like the USA, "powerful people" decided the constitution

you just cant follow what Im saying

this nigga still going?

holy shit

Yep

@Fulcrum010 Heh it's fascinating stuff.

@Fulcrum010 fascists are autists confirmed

@Mercury
He is a retarded stuff

that's what happens when you allow wi-fi on the mental asylum

@Fulcrum010 Heh I don't talk to Neo-Nazis very often. And he honestly has a chance to really make me understand where he's coming from here, but I think I made him mad. -.-

Once a group of fascist get together and decide on principles and a bounding document like a constitution, why do you think it doesn't matter?
Only liberals can do that?

silly

@Mercury
I've done that before, and i've seen him before

so meh

have fun while you can

Im not mad, Im just having to start repeating

its getting boring

Here

For your ass

Okay What is a meta political document?

It’s the big gay

@Deleted User Don't worry. You're just presenting something very alien to people. You gotta have patience.

Can fascists have a constitutional document? You guys are too much

lol

true

Theyre not putting into vision a political ideaology, it would have a set of laws and principles....like any state

Ours would have more social codes....

perhaps even ending disestablisment

thats a big discussion now

Religious police too

no, more like a religious council to advise lawmakers

Show ankles, get whipped

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDba5-eFQJE

White sharia now

So, I see when I talk about constraints on the power of government that you mention constitutions, and that makes sense because it's a lot of how the nuts and bolts works in the west. But I think it's better to look at moral philosophy for your constraints. Lockeian type stuff.

Honestly this might be part of my confusion, because I don't see the lines in which government should be constrained as some sort of edict made by powerful people. I see it as a consequence of nature, or 'natural law,' as they say. That means there is no contradiction between 'having any laws at all' and 'there is no excuse for law X Y Z'

Because there is a delineation there that transcends.

'Rights' basically.

None fully on, @M4Gunner there are some facets of it in some systems, but the best example is probably Israel

Its probably the fullest expression of a traditional view codified into law and Natsoc in direction

Not the tradition of europeans, though close, since it was just a bunch of eastern europeans who made it

but the jew thing is obvioously a bit of a problem

not for them of course

Ah

There it is

Yes, Israel is NatSoc

So we could see that as an expression of Fascism, but accordingly, if it were in teh USA, it wouldnt be a "jewish homeland"

but theirs is.

when I'm angry

israel is nat soc

Yes, @Mercury I understand, but there is a value-less position that takes " any thing people want ", which is fine when defacto everyone is christian and white and speaks the same language and is homogenous...you dont HAVE to codify any of it, its already done.

There must be some meme here I'm not familiar with :p

oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diuexInkshA

best song to dance

Locke is fine but ulitmatley he didnt have to envision the modern world where every town is a flood of foreigners from international airports - etc.

where leftism is a thing, he couldnt have foreseen

Fascism is an inoculation against that - its what guys like Sargon argue for but wont codify "west is the best" well, then make a law to keep it that way

"cant"

the pictures mean you dont want to discuss this?

spamming pictures

okay

@Deleted User I'm not sure what you're saying... but I like the subject change. <:think_hitlerdidnothingwrong:378717099952177162> I don't think people can expect to get along just because they Christian and European. I can point to World War 1 and 2 as evidence that in fact the more European and Christian you are, the more likely you are to be at each other's throats.

I get it.

>claims to support liberalist ideals
>does not allow the free exchange of ideas

it means fuck off to <#372513679964635138>

Hyperkek

@Deleted User @Mercury
<#372513679964635138>

No, Fascism isnt a pathway to utopian peace.....its not sold as such

White people still fight....which you should be okay with... lol

Fascism is a needlessly bloody path that is fundamentally unsustainable

@A Random Crusader
I told you before, you can fuck off back to /pol/
Plus, supporting the free exchange of ideas does not equals having to support a faggot defend fascism, specially after 3 other people talked to him and made him look weak

It doesnt have to be bloody

Fascism isnt a war tactic

@Fulcrum010 I'm going after the fashcunt you dumbass

@A Random Crusader

You are going after you hand, you retard

Say that again but in English @Fulcrum010

fucking annoying retards

YOu can have an "free" exchange of ideas in fascism, your idea of tranny book time at the public library will never come up for a vote , though.

lol

understandable have a nice day

But, you can carry on with the party of Tranny rights....your call

many are fed up

lol spamming pictures

calm down guys

I'll go to politics

relax

@M4Gunner now

<#372507611284766722> is now #heavyarms

look at this anti tank boi

37mm of kickass

what the fuck even is that???

bullshit

It needs more wheels

You can never have enough wheel

What’s the goddamn name of it?

sdkfz 2

I want

Is it street legal?

Maybe?

I think you have to de-tread tho @A Random Crusader

Because it fucks up the roads

also speed prob

@Deleted User Still worth it, it's the ultimate crotch rocket

"rocket"

@A Random Crusader you fucking bet

Honey **NUT**

uh

it legit fucks up the roads

!maga

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https://imgur.com/a/S4g9a

The pussy destroyer

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Goddamn shill @Mee6

Blame the bots

(((((((Bots)))))))

Also the weapons have to be removed/disabled

But that’s kinda obvious

Is it a tankette?

Yes

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/TKS_P1010141_2.jpg

If an immigrant comes to your country and constantly talks down white people, says they should shut up and go away

is it racist to ask them

what the hell they are doing here?

No it’s not rascist

I've just had this discussion with someone on the left that now thinks I am triggered and a racist for saying it's not racist

🤔

@NightOwl see I found your problem

I also said that i despise identity politics, but i'm still a racist lol

You were arguing with a leftist

https://youtu.be/SNuA_0-vuow?t=6

we were talking about this woman

She is from Uganda

and all she does is talk about white people

She can fuck right off

and Godfrey Bloom said to her on twitter... let me find the tweet

https://twitter.com/goddersbloom/status/998592528000737282

Lol

Wasn’t he ukip?