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2018-10-29 22:08:49 UTC

No, that's just asians when they have a vibrator up their ass while they think about little kids.

2018-10-29 22:09:25 UTC

Sounds like my uncle Wong

2018-10-29 22:09:55 UTC

Now you're just being racist. Not all asians are pedophiles. Most of them, sure. But #notall.

2018-10-29 22:10:06 UTC

Sorry for my opression

2018-10-29 22:10:14 UTC

I believe I'm owed 40 lashes

2018-10-29 22:10:25 UTC

No, we just pay the fine in whisky here.

2018-10-29 22:10:27 UTC

*Pls don't make it hard daddy*

2018-10-29 22:10:37 UTC

You owe me 3 bottles of walker

2018-10-29 22:10:42 UTC


2018-10-29 22:10:53 UTC

*Comes back from tesco and slams door*

2018-10-29 22:11:00 UTC

black label

2018-10-29 22:11:01 UTC

Alright mate it was freezing

2018-10-29 22:11:07 UTC

But I gotem

2018-10-29 22:11:20 UTC

Thanks Amos.

2018-10-29 22:11:27 UTC

I mean, random asian person.

2018-10-29 22:11:39 UTC


2018-10-29 22:12:09 UTC

Shh, not yet. First we need another 5 million muslims or I'll never break my previous record from 40-45.

2018-10-29 22:12:54 UTC


2018-10-29 22:13:00 UTC

Good man.

2018-10-29 22:13:25 UTC


2018-10-29 22:13:42 UTC

Shrek always fucking up my gay ops.

2018-10-29 22:14:17 UTC

wew lad, risky move with the cops probably tracking those words by now.

2018-10-29 22:14:37 UTC

Besides, I don't see how shooting up muslims is going to cure his eyesight.

2018-10-29 22:14:49 UTC


2018-10-29 22:14:51 UTC

Too bad they can't regulate /pol/

2018-10-29 22:14:55 UTC


2018-10-29 22:15:07 UTC

When they are talking about deleting discords do you think that is the best idea right now?

2018-10-29 22:15:20 UTC

Wait wut?

2018-10-29 22:15:24 UTC

Mesah now nothing, sir.

2018-10-29 22:16:36 UTC

Yo guys epic hack I just found

2018-10-29 22:16:45 UTC


2018-10-29 22:16:49 UTC

Free vbucks

2018-10-29 22:16:54 UTC


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2018-10-29 22:24:14 UTC

and his dad too

2018-10-29 22:24:18 UTC

oh wait <:GWfroggyPepoSmug:398570232647647242>

2018-10-29 22:31:59 UTC

@Deleted User Okay this is epic

2018-10-29 22:33:39 UTC


2018-10-29 22:58:18 UTC

Look at the blatant bias in the title.

2018-10-29 22:58:34 UTC

They don't even try to hide it.

2018-10-29 22:58:42 UTC

look at that fucking URL

2018-10-29 22:58:48 UTC


2018-10-29 22:59:08 UTC

@Elijah I mean, *have you been to Gab?*

2018-10-29 22:59:37 UTC

I never heard of it till it got dehosted.

2018-10-29 22:59:58 UTC

It *is* a cesspool of Nazis

2018-10-29 23:00:39 UTC

no matter how much i post on gab, nothing ever gets traction like my twitter or minds accounts so tbh, i wouldn't miss it if it disappeared

2018-10-29 23:01:27 UTC

I mean, many of them were probably there.

2018-10-29 23:02:04 UTC

But I wouldn't make the absolutist claim that everyone there was there because they were a nazi.

2018-10-29 23:03:41 UTC

I would, I've been on there for months

2018-10-29 23:03:47 UTC

It's mostly Nazis.

2018-10-29 23:04:00 UTC

It's like /pol/ meets boomers

2018-10-29 23:05:08 UTC

see i never associated pol with actual nazis... i always saw pol as just edgybois larping as nazis... but gab is definitely the real thing

2018-10-29 23:05:29 UTC

Speaking of Boomers and /pol/


I think it's safe to say JBP is starting to show

2018-10-29 23:06:08 UTC

@Hazzardous Once you get into the weird ethnonationalist part of youtube where actual dog whistles are used, they all refer to /pol/ as "paul" like some kind of weird codeword

2018-10-29 23:06:13 UTC

Perhaps the best thing we can do is join the platform (assuming you are not anti-sematic).

2018-10-29 23:06:23 UTC

And talk to them.

2018-10-29 23:08:11 UTC

i don't doubt you, i'm probably just too sheltered to see what's really going on lol

2018-10-29 23:08:23 UTC

As optimistic as it sounds,I think that everyone can be saved.

2018-10-29 23:08:33 UTC

Pepe may touch the minds of the npcs

2018-10-29 23:08:40 UTC

And make them playable.

2018-10-29 23:08:46 UTC

Yeah, it's not like what the Left speaks about when they refer to "nazis". I doubt they know these people exist

2018-10-29 23:09:17 UTC

fuck sakes everybody right of marx is a nazi to those far left fucks

2018-10-29 23:09:22 UTC

No, to the normal left, nazi just means right of center.

2018-10-29 23:09:38 UTC

A lot of people on Gab are, like, actually nazis.

2018-10-29 23:10:34 UTC

Thing is, I don't blame them or think they're hateful.

They're just want an easy answer to difficult questions in modern America, and a safe place to live a normal life without worrying about 20+ years from now

2018-10-29 23:11:02 UTC

I still do think they are hateful and are partly to blame for it.

2018-10-29 23:11:12 UTC

I however don't hate them.

2018-10-29 23:11:15 UTC

Well, I'm talking about different people

2018-10-29 23:11:32 UTC

The white ethnonationalists, not the neo-nazis

2018-10-29 23:11:39 UTC

Ah okay.

2018-10-29 23:12:28 UTC

Tbh I can see the white nationalist argument.

2018-10-29 23:12:57 UTC

If it excluded the race part I might be on board.

2018-10-29 23:13:00 UTC

Liberalism is hard, tbh. "The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance"

2018-10-29 23:13:33 UTC

@Elijah wouldn't that negate the whole white nationalist part though? lol

2018-10-29 23:13:52 UTC

I agree with their culture argument.

2018-10-29 23:13:55 UTC

@Hazzardous Not necessarily, like Orania in South Africa

2018-10-29 23:14:28 UTC

Many people from other countries have values that would harm America.

2018-10-29 23:15:03 UTC

And I don't think I should put people in a position to hurt my country.

2018-10-29 23:15:22 UTC

But I do not think it is race based in the slightest.

2018-10-29 23:16:15 UTC

I don't want a lot of British people here either.

2018-10-29 23:16:21 UTC

If shit hits the fan, that's why I'm going to Alaska.

it's the last place I know of where American rugged individualism is still regarded as a virtue in most places

2018-10-29 23:16:48 UTC

Don't go through nome then

2018-10-29 23:16:58 UTC

PC af

2018-10-29 23:17:03 UTC

No, that's not Alaska. That's the Rez

2018-10-29 23:17:13 UTC

I think immigrants becoming citizens should be able to answer one question honestly.

2018-10-29 23:17:29 UTC

What 3 things are all people entitled to?

2018-10-29 23:17:53 UTC

@flyingfoxel spread your cheeks for the Canadian annexation

2018-10-29 23:18:06 UTC

If they can answer that honestly and correctly they are as good as my best buddy.

2018-10-29 23:18:25 UTC

@flyingfoxel I've seen gas stations accept US dollars in the Yukon. Already halfway there <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-10-29 23:19:54 UTC


2018-10-29 23:20:17 UTC

lost mid way in a comp sci class and now i know my night is shot watching over the class video tonight till i get it...

2018-10-29 23:20:23 UTC

how are you guys?

2018-10-29 23:20:23 UTC

@Fitzydog Fifty-four forty or fight

2018-10-29 23:20:40 UTC

@Deleted User You're GOD DAMN RIGHT

2018-10-29 23:21:08 UTC

@NamasKnight my dick's tired from running a train on this dumb commie thot

2018-10-29 23:21:47 UTC

How're the Sargonites doing today?

2018-10-29 23:25:25 UTC

Won't ever happen manifest destiny in the other direction first

2018-10-29 23:25:48 UTC

We need to root out the loyalist scum

2018-10-29 23:26:08 UTC

@NamasKnight my dicks tired from railing fire in the ass

2018-10-29 23:26:26 UTC

From zaddy: "good night"

2018-10-29 23:27:33 UTC

think a person behind me just read that you dickbags lol

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2018-10-30 00:00:09 UTC

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2018-10-30 00:06:42 UTC

russians are wierd

2018-10-30 00:08:22 UTC

Watch boomba. My son found it on netflix....its fucking chaos done by russians

2018-10-30 00:08:26 UTC

No words in it.

2018-10-30 01:05:46 UTC

Just had some chicken livers.

Mmmm, fuck yeah.

2018-10-30 02:06:15 UTC


2018-10-30 02:06:21 UTC

That's something

2018-10-30 02:06:35 UTC

Live by the Reddit die by the Reddit

2018-10-30 02:10:48 UTC

Everyone - What philisophical or political question or idea that you think about and want to talk about with people?

2018-10-30 02:11:13 UTC

Here's one:

2018-10-30 02:11:38 UTC

Why is it that people don't ever ask open ended political questions in <#372513679964635138> ?

2018-10-30 02:12:41 UTC

1. Sargon server is about stuff sargon would talk about and general is where you have general chats about such things.
2. Because those channels are too specific to actually get any kind of good conversation going.

2018-10-30 02:17:52 UTC


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2018-10-30 02:47:35 UTC

@Fitzydog Hope that crazy cunt loses

2018-10-30 02:47:50 UTC

That fucking intern

2018-10-30 03:48:00 UTC

whats up dudes

2018-10-30 03:48:36 UTC

i fucked my arm up from soldering somehow. it doesnt hurt terribly to continue soldering, but i can barely lift my arm above my shoulder

2018-10-30 03:48:43 UTC

massive gay

2018-10-30 03:48:52 UTC


2018-10-30 03:49:10 UTC

its the arm that holds the solder, not the iron

2018-10-30 03:49:53 UTC

maybe you pinched the artery just a bit for too long, and caused some atrophy

2018-10-30 03:50:10 UTC

well not on purpose

2018-10-30 03:59:59 UTC

*I exist in a State of Liberty.*

2018-10-30 04:00:05 UTC


2018-10-30 04:05:19 UTC

do not go to that article.

Absolute cancer.

2018-10-30 04:23:44 UTC

It's from rolling stone what did you expect ?

2018-10-30 04:24:23 UTC

please excuse him, he has artism

2018-10-30 04:39:52 UTC

trying to create a 51st state eh?

2018-10-30 04:41:24 UTC

Probably would end up better off than Puerto Rico

2018-10-30 04:43:44 UTC

Could be nerve pinch

2018-10-30 04:44:00 UTC

My pinched nerve in my neck has that effect on my right arm

2018-10-30 04:51:14 UTC

Basically, it'd just be making Idaho bigger.

People are moving there in droves, so it can't be all bad?

2018-10-30 04:51:15 UTC


2018-10-30 05:00:23 UTC

I just found out the libtard has an official definition on google

2018-10-30 05:00:23 UTC


2018-10-30 05:03:06 UTC

a 51st state requires a flag revision, new star layout, it will never happen

2018-10-30 05:03:52 UTC

id move to idaho if i had a car

2018-10-30 05:03:58 UTC

get me a nice potato job

2018-10-30 05:14:00 UTC

there are plenty of 51 star flag proposals

2018-10-30 05:14:05 UTC

and 52

2018-10-30 05:14:41 UTC

Yea cali had to create some with their splitting up proposals. As did the people wanting state of jefferson

2018-10-30 05:15:04 UTC

A 51 star proposal has been around since at least the late 80s

2018-10-30 05:15:30 UTC

Plus puerto rico constantly teasing attempting full statehood

2018-10-30 05:17:28 UTC

fuck puerto rico, give it to based Phillipines

2018-10-30 05:40:34 UTC

I would be down

2018-10-30 05:40:42 UTC

But we had to free them per contract

2018-10-30 05:44:44 UTC


2018-10-30 05:53:14 UTC

any country wanting foreign aid should become a subsidiary of USA

2018-10-30 06:11:05 UTC

reading people complaining in the /r/ socialism thread in reddit is mind numbing

2018-10-30 06:22:19 UTC

Can you logically prove murder is immoral?
Seems like an obvious conclusion that murder is immoral but I've not seen anyone use logic to explain why.

2018-10-30 06:24:32 UTC

fuck, if i was better atwords...

2018-10-30 06:25:48 UTC

I imagine most people would agree that blowing up a tree isn't immoral but blowing up a person is immoral.

2018-10-30 06:26:22 UTC

Is it immoral to kill yourself?

2018-10-30 06:27:01 UTC

that depends on your view of selfishness

2018-10-30 06:27:24 UTC

if you see selfishness as a bad thing, then murder is immoral. suicide is too, as it is 'self murder'

2018-10-30 06:28:57 UTC

murder, specifically, is the act of killing another person willfully and with intent to do so. we recognise that murder with 'just cause' (self defense, defense of others, etc) is acceptable, but without these justifications murder is simply an extreme act of selfishness

2018-10-30 06:29:25 UTC

Distill the exception.

2018-10-30 06:30:01 UTC

Put another way, you noted it, but let's pull it out what differentiates acceptable from unacceptable.

2018-10-30 06:31:28 UTC

ah. the act of preserving your own life, or the lives of others, is seen as a fundamental right of everyone. hence, 'just cause' is primarily granted when expressing this right

2018-10-30 06:32:09 UTC

Justified is the part I was alluding to.

2018-10-30 06:32:46 UTC

What is being justified? The imparting of detriment upon another entity. But how is it justified?

2018-10-30 06:33:13 UTC

NOTE: You don't have to justify imparting benefit upon another entity.

2018-10-30 06:34:23 UTC

its 2:30 am where i am, and thinking is not something my brain wants me to do at this moment. would you mind simplifying what you mean?

2018-10-30 06:34:52 UTC

Which part?

2018-10-30 06:35:29 UTC

It's 1:35am where I am but my brain is an asshole and won't let me sleep.

2018-10-30 06:37:28 UTC

ah, i think i get what you said. you dont have to justify doing something good to someone else. but you do need to justify doing something bad. and the question you ask is why this is

2018-10-30 06:37:39 UTC

am i correct?

2018-10-30 06:38:51 UTC

Very correct

2018-10-30 06:39:00 UTC

There are three moral states.

2018-10-30 06:39:13 UTC

Immoral - Morally Nuetral - Moral

2018-10-30 06:39:24 UTC

Benefiting someone is moral as it benefits.

2018-10-30 06:39:36 UTC

Morally nuetral is where it neither benefits nor detriments another party.

2018-10-30 06:39:51 UTC

For instance if I say hello to someone, it has done neither a positive nor negative thing to them.

2018-10-30 06:40:34 UTC

I more or less have been asking people that very blunt question of how to morally prove murder is wrong because I'm curious how other people justify the claim to themselves.

2018-10-30 06:41:17 UTC

I've developed an objective morality framework but I'm pretty curious how other people go about it in every day life even with obviously immoral things.

2018-10-30 06:41:36 UTC

The justification part is where people seem to lose the plot.

2018-10-30 06:42:00 UTC

Everything else I think people can wrap their heads around pretty easily when someone makes it explicit but justification part just seems complicated.

2018-10-30 06:42:19 UTC

Mainly because there are three words associated: Justified/justification, just, justice

2018-10-30 06:42:26 UTC

They are NOT the same things.

2018-10-30 06:43:42 UTC

Since it is late and you alluded to being a bit tired for such a heavy topic, I'd like to ask you a different question that is related.

2018-10-30 06:44:17 UTC

If you were able to have it proven to you that objective morality based on pure reason existed and how it works, how would that impact your life and perspective of life in general?

2018-10-30 06:47:01 UTC

not very much actually. though i am religious and feel that religion is a good path to mortality, i see human beings as highly complicated creatures who are capable of reason in many different ways. a catholic, a jew, and an atheist may come to 'mortality' on different paths, but in the end they end up agreeing more than they disagree when it comes to right and wrong.

2018-10-30 06:49:01 UTC

granted, you always have those people whose path led them to justifying things that are not right, in the name of being right. a christian who thinks gayness is evil, a muslim who thinks 'others' are evil, and atheist who thinks religion is itself evil, and so on

2018-10-30 06:49:16 UTC

Those would be based on theory, not proof. It's like if a bunch of groups theorized what the shape of earth and then got proved it was a globe shape and either had to give into the facts or be provably delusional.

2018-10-30 06:49:38 UTC

Think of it like religion even.

2018-10-30 06:50:19 UTC

If the Christian God, the supernatural one, was proven to be real and created reality and the people in it, that would have a massively interesting effect on both Christians who just had faith, and atheists who just didn't believe it at all.

2018-10-30 06:50:34 UTC

when you say 'prove', by which method do you mean? philosophy is not something that can be proven through something scientific

2018-10-30 06:50:37 UTC

Agnostics would be like β€œneat”

2018-10-30 06:51:04 UTC

@Cirno I think god coming down and being like β€œyup, I exist” would be pretty solid proof assuming it did something godlike

2018-10-30 06:51:30 UTC

@Cirno - Science was born of philosphy. Science just has a way of proving things via logic and facts.

2018-10-30 06:51:48 UTC


2018-10-30 06:51:49 UTC

Such logic as: A + B = C

2018-10-30 06:51:50 UTC

Not really

2018-10-30 06:51:58 UTC

Science is more a method

2018-10-30 06:52:06 UTC

To get as close to the truth as we can

2018-10-30 06:52:12 UTC

Not necessarily proving things

2018-10-30 06:52:42 UTC

Most things in science are just very very sound theories that have been tested and refined

2018-10-30 06:52:49 UTC

But it’s hard to actually prove something

2018-10-30 06:53:00 UTC

And math is more of a concept, so you can prove stuff there

2018-10-30 06:53:13 UTC

But as far as our reality goes, it’s much harder to prove stuff

2018-10-30 06:53:19 UTC

There are two types of hypothesis in science. The kind with no ability to have hidden variables and the kind that most certainly will have hidden variables.

2018-10-30 06:53:46 UTC

Can I get an example of one with no ability to have hidden variables?

2018-10-30 06:54:22 UTC

A simple lever and how much weight it will move with x amount of force applied at any particular point of the lever.

2018-10-30 06:54:39 UTC

As an ideal model, sure

2018-10-30 06:54:56 UTC

But when you try to implement it into reality you introduce the possibility of hidden variables

2018-10-30 06:55:11 UTC

No idea what you said.

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2018-10-30 06:55:19 UTC

Hold on

2018-10-30 06:55:29 UTC

(note: I'm a mech engineer)

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2018-10-30 06:55:58 UTC

To quote a philosophy major from my school

2018-10-30 06:56:06 UTC

β€œYou can’t prove that he even exists”

2018-10-30 06:56:17 UTC

So how are you supposed to prove the lever is exerting x amount of force

2018-10-30 06:56:20 UTC

That statement is wholly irrational.

2018-10-30 06:56:25 UTC

If you can’t even prove the lever exists

2018-10-30 06:56:35 UTC

You can argue you perceive the lever

2018-10-30 06:56:59 UTC

But that doesn’t necessarily mean it exists

2018-10-30 06:57:19 UTC

When someone introduces a statement like that, the value of the conversation is as useful as trying to teach calculus to a brick wall.

2018-10-30 06:58:06 UTC

NOTE: I will not attempt to teach a brick wall calculus.

2018-10-30 06:58:10 UTC

What I’m saying is

2018-10-30 06:58:18 UTC

I know what you are saying.

2018-10-30 06:58:26 UTC


2018-10-30 06:58:26 UTC

It's a poor line of reasoning.

2018-10-30 06:58:31 UTC

Also congrats on the rank up

2018-10-30 06:58:53 UTC

From a β€œproving” standpoint though, it’s a perfectly solid line of reasoning

2018-10-30 06:59:12 UTC

If that is your stance, I'm going to discontinue the interaction.

2018-10-30 06:59:41 UTC

```NOTE: I will not attempt to teach a brick wall calculus.```

2018-10-30 06:59:43 UTC

alright, that's your choice

2018-10-30 07:00:19 UTC

like @Cirno said, "philosophy is not something that can be proven through something scientific"

2018-10-30 07:01:38 UTC

I was not attempting to prove philsophy through science. That should have been obvious by the statements I made.

2018-10-30 07:02:43 UTC

I know

2018-10-30 07:02:46 UTC

I'm agreeing

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