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No, that's just asians when they have a vibrator up their ass while they think about little kids.
Sounds like my uncle Wong
Now you're just being racist. Not all asians are pedophiles. Most of them, sure. But #notall.
Sorry for my opression
I believe I'm owed 40 lashes
No, we just pay the fine in whisky here.
*Pls don't make it hard daddy*
You owe me 3 bottles of walker
*Comes back from tesco and slams door*
Alright mate it was freezing
But I gotem
I mean, random asian person.
Shh, not yet. First we need another 5 million muslims or I'll never break my previous record from 40-45.
Shrek always fucking up my gay ops.
wew lad, risky move with the cops probably tracking those words by now.
Besides, I don't see how shooting up muslims is going to cure his eyesight.
Too bad they can't regulate /pol/
When they are talking about deleting discords do you think that is the best idea right now?
Mesah now nothing, sir.
Yo guys epic hack I just found
TRY IT NOW
and his dad too
oh wait <:GWfroggyPepoSmug:398570232647647242>
Look at the blatant bias in the title.
They don't even try to hide it.
look at that fucking URL
I never heard of it till it got dehosted.
It *is* a cesspool of Nazis
no matter how much i post on gab, nothing ever gets traction like my twitter or minds accounts so tbh, i wouldn't miss it if it disappeared
I mean, many of them were probably there.
But I wouldn't make the absolutist claim that everyone there was there because they were a nazi.
I would, I've been on there for months
It's mostly Nazis.
It's like /pol/ meets boomers
see i never associated pol with actual nazis... i always saw pol as just edgybois larping as nazis... but gab is definitely the real thing
Speaking of Boomers and /pol/
I think it's safe to say JBP is starting to show
@Hazzardous Once you get into the weird ethnonationalist part of youtube where actual dog whistles are used, they all refer to /pol/ as "paul" like some kind of weird codeword
Perhaps the best thing we can do is join the platform (assuming you are not anti-sematic).
And talk to them.
i don't doubt you, i'm probably just too sheltered to see what's really going on lol
As optimistic as it sounds,I think that everyone can be saved.
Pepe may touch the minds of the npcs
And make them playable.
Yeah, it's not like what the Left speaks about when they refer to "nazis". I doubt they know these people exist
fuck sakes everybody right of marx is a nazi to those far left fucks
No, to the normal left, nazi just means right of center.
A lot of people on Gab are, like, actually nazis.
Thing is, I don't blame them or think they're hateful.
They're just want an easy answer to difficult questions in modern America, and a safe place to live a normal life without worrying about 20+ years from now
I still do think they are hateful and are partly to blame for it.
I however don't hate them.
Well, I'm talking about different people
The white ethnonationalists, not the neo-nazis
Tbh I can see the white nationalist argument.
If it excluded the race part I might be on board.
Liberalism is hard, tbh. "The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance"
@Elijah wouldn't that negate the whole white nationalist part though? lol
I agree with their culture argument.
Many people from other countries have values that would harm America.
And I don't think I should put people in a position to hurt my country.
But I do not think it is race based in the slightest.
I don't want a lot of British people here either.
If shit hits the fan, that's why I'm going to Alaska.
it's the last place I know of where American rugged individualism is still regarded as a virtue in most places
Don't go through nome then
No, that's not Alaska. That's the Rez
I think immigrants becoming citizens should be able to answer one question honestly.
What 3 things are all people entitled to?
If they can answer that honestly and correctly they are as good as my best buddy.
@flyingfoxel I've seen gas stations accept US dollars in the Yukon. Already halfway there <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>
lost mid way in a comp sci class and now i know my night is shot watching over the class video tonight till i get it...
how are you guys?
@NamasKnight my dick's tired from running a train on this dumb commie thot
How're the Sargonites doing today?
Won't ever happen manifest destiny in the other direction first
We need to root out the loyalist scum
From zaddy: "good night"
think a person behind me just read that you dickbags lol
russians are wierd
Watch boomba. My son found it on netflix....its fucking chaos done by russians
No words in it.
Just had some chicken livers.
Mmmm, fuck yeah.
Live by the Reddit die by the Reddit
Everyone - What philisophical or political question or idea that you think about and want to talk about with people?
Why is it that people don't ever ask open ended political questions in <#372513679964635138> ?
1. Sargon server is about stuff sargon would talk about and general is where you have general chats about such things.
2. Because those channels are too specific to actually get any kind of good conversation going.
That fucking intern
whats up dudes
i fucked my arm up from soldering somehow. it doesnt hurt terribly to continue soldering, but i can barely lift my arm above my shoulder
its the arm that holds the solder, not the iron
maybe you pinched the artery just a bit for too long, and caused some atrophy
well not on purpose
*I exist in a State of Liberty.*
do not go to that article.
It's from rolling stone what did you expect ?
please excuse him, he has artism
trying to create a 51st state eh?
Probably would end up better off than Puerto Rico
Could be nerve pinch
My pinched nerve in my neck has that effect on my right arm
Basically, it'd just be making Idaho bigger.
People are moving there in droves, so it can't be all bad?
I just found out the libtard has an official definition on google
a 51st state requires a flag revision, new star layout, it will never happen
id move to idaho if i had a car
get me a nice potato job
there are plenty of 51 star flag proposals
Yea cali had to create some with their splitting up proposals. As did the people wanting state of jefferson
A 51 star proposal has been around since at least the late 80s
Plus puerto rico constantly teasing attempting full statehood
fuck puerto rico, give it to based Phillipines
I would be down
But we had to free them per contract
any country wanting foreign aid should become a subsidiary of USA
reading people complaining in the /r/ socialism thread in reddit is mind numbing
Can you logically prove murder is immoral?
Seems like an obvious conclusion that murder is immoral but I've not seen anyone use logic to explain why.
fuck, if i was better atwords...
I imagine most people would agree that blowing up a tree isn't immoral but blowing up a person is immoral.
Is it immoral to kill yourself?
that depends on your view of selfishness
if you see selfishness as a bad thing, then murder is immoral. suicide is too, as it is 'self murder'
murder, specifically, is the act of killing another person willfully and with intent to do so. we recognise that murder with 'just cause' (self defense, defense of others, etc) is acceptable, but without these justifications murder is simply an extreme act of selfishness
Distill the exception.
Put another way, you noted it, but let's pull it out what differentiates acceptable from unacceptable.
ah. the act of preserving your own life, or the lives of others, is seen as a fundamental right of everyone. hence, 'just cause' is primarily granted when expressing this right
Justified is the part I was alluding to.
What is being justified? The imparting of detriment upon another entity. But how is it justified?
NOTE: You don't have to justify imparting benefit upon another entity.
its 2:30 am where i am, and thinking is not something my brain wants me to do at this moment. would you mind simplifying what you mean?
It's 1:35am where I am but my brain is an asshole and won't let me sleep.
ah, i think i get what you said. you dont have to justify doing something good to someone else. but you do need to justify doing something bad. and the question you ask is why this is
am i correct?
There are three moral states.
Immoral - Morally Nuetral - Moral
Benefiting someone is moral as it benefits.
Morally nuetral is where it neither benefits nor detriments another party.
For instance if I say hello to someone, it has done neither a positive nor negative thing to them.
I more or less have been asking people that very blunt question of how to morally prove murder is wrong because I'm curious how other people justify the claim to themselves.
I've developed an objective morality framework but I'm pretty curious how other people go about it in every day life even with obviously immoral things.
The justification part is where people seem to lose the plot.
Everything else I think people can wrap their heads around pretty easily when someone makes it explicit but justification part just seems complicated.
Mainly because there are three words associated: Justified/justification, just, justice
They are NOT the same things.
Since it is late and you alluded to being a bit tired for such a heavy topic, I'd like to ask you a different question that is related.
If you were able to have it proven to you that objective morality based on pure reason existed and how it works, how would that impact your life and perspective of life in general?
not very much actually. though i am religious and feel that religion is a good path to mortality, i see human beings as highly complicated creatures who are capable of reason in many different ways. a catholic, a jew, and an atheist may come to 'mortality' on different paths, but in the end they end up agreeing more than they disagree when it comes to right and wrong.
granted, you always have those people whose path led them to justifying things that are not right, in the name of being right. a christian who thinks gayness is evil, a muslim who thinks 'others' are evil, and atheist who thinks religion is itself evil, and so on
Those would be based on theory, not proof. It's like if a bunch of groups theorized what the shape of earth and then got proved it was a globe shape and either had to give into the facts or be provably delusional.
Think of it like religion even.
If the Christian God, the supernatural one, was proven to be real and created reality and the people in it, that would have a massively interesting effect on both Christians who just had faith, and atheists who just didn't believe it at all.
when you say 'prove', by which method do you mean? philosophy is not something that can be proven through something scientific
Agnostics would be like “neat”
@Cirno I think god coming down and being like “yup, I exist” would be pretty solid proof assuming it did something godlike
@Cirno - Science was born of philosphy. Science just has a way of proving things via logic and facts.
Such logic as: A + B = C
Science is more a method
To get as close to the truth as we can
Not necessarily proving things
Most things in science are just very very sound theories that have been tested and refined
But it’s hard to actually prove something
And math is more of a concept, so you can prove stuff there
But as far as our reality goes, it’s much harder to prove stuff
There are two types of hypothesis in science. The kind with no ability to have hidden variables and the kind that most certainly will have hidden variables.
Can I get an example of one with no ability to have hidden variables?
A simple lever and how much weight it will move with x amount of force applied at any particular point of the lever.
As an ideal model, sure
But when you try to implement it into reality you introduce the possibility of hidden variables
No idea what you said.
(note: I'm a mech engineer)
To quote a philosophy major from my school
“You can’t prove that he even exists”
So how are you supposed to prove the lever is exerting x amount of force
That statement is wholly irrational.
If you can’t even prove the lever exists
You can argue you perceive the lever
But that doesn’t necessarily mean it exists
When someone introduces a statement like that, the value of the conversation is as useful as trying to teach calculus to a brick wall.
NOTE: I will not attempt to teach a brick wall calculus.
What I’m saying is
I know what you are saying.
It's a poor line of reasoning.
Also congrats on the rank up
From a “proving” standpoint though, it’s a perfectly solid line of reasoning
If that is your stance, I'm going to discontinue the interaction.
```NOTE: I will not attempt to teach a brick wall calculus.```
alright, that's your choice
like @Cirno said, "philosophy is not something that can be proven through something scientific"
I was not attempting to prove philsophy through science. That should have been obvious by the statements I made.