On an unrelated note, is Sargon aware of the Harvard study about Americans hating PC culture? Seems like the kind of thing he'd make a video on

i'm sure he'll bring it up at some point

Btw how do points work?

Each time you post a message you get a random number of XP between 15 and 25.

To avoid flood, you can only gain xp once per minute.

If you accumulate enough points, you can exchange them for tendies

you mean in here? is that how people have different color names and stuff?

i thought it was the patreon rewards for $5 and $20

I think you're thinking of (((Athens)))

sargoy is not here, that is the other discord

ah, do you need a patreon invite for that one?

well im off see you nerds later

@Cirno <#380751840750469125>

oh, didnt know we had that. this discord has a ton of stuff

i could just come here for news instead of my sub feed

Yeah, honestly this is where I hang out and post shit now.

this is honestly the best discord

Best place on the internet, tbh.

And that just goes to show how shit the internet is these days...

agreed

yeah... but no porn on here

so i still have to go to 4chan and exhentai for that

This discord is better tbh, less of a shitshow

JDM does a good job

I can only imagine some of the sorts of people going to the Athens in light of all the drama

Yeah, some of them stumble through here first

🤦🏻

Bloodsports faggots

They'll go on a shitposting/trolling storm for half an hour, before they figure out they're in the wrong server lol

They're not too smart. Daddy Warski can barely read after all

I remember when all those altrighters came through here wanting to debate, and when i went to their discord, they were like, "i don't know what is wrong with those people, it almost seems like they don't even like Sargon." 🤣

Seriously, I think they pay more attention to Sargon than we do

it's true

They keep trying to say his channel is collapsing while he rakes in ~$13k a month in crowdfunding

It went up from the last time I checked a year ago

i think it comes down to the fact that Sargon is basically the most popular thing that they have access to

Probably

Does annoy me how he gives them the time of day by going on killstream. If he wants them absolutely seething he should just ignore them

yeah, just make an offhand comment about them every once in a while to fuck with them

Outsource alt-right research to some fan, and just use a buzzword of their's to keep them on their toes

Makes it seem like you know what's going on, but with none of the work of watching 4hr+ streams

I remember how the alt-right people flipped their shit when Sargon said he was done debating them

sargon basically keeps them relevant, and they know it

They're fascinating to observe because they're basically SJWs who have no power

given his most recently thinkery video, i believe he went on the killstream to use them as a means to jumpstart lefties talking about gamergate again

came out like an hour ago

i mean, 8k viewers on a stream isnt an insignificant number, and theres bound to be some undercover journalists watching for things to report on

the AR are just leeches

leeches who have garnered favor with metokur, the lord of youtube trolling

id be willing to bet he is 70% responsible for their success

in other news, mob psycho 100 is a freaky fucking show. i feel like i should be on drugs while watching it

looked it up
anime
no thanks

I'm

Not

Sorry

I watched the one Metokur segment with the furry

The dude actually made a valid point

We know nothing about Metokur irl

anime made by the same person who made one punch man

i dont mind metokurs regular content

it's good

Yeah, he's fine when he's laughing at crazy people

But he is insanely dishonest in streams

The alt-right is actually dangerous, honestly. They’re very good at converting normies who don’t base themselves in principle

you know... i have to wonder what the fuck is with feminist and their VERY unhealth obsession with their vaginas

They’re lesbians ofc

The reason they're so effective is because they more or less share the same worldview as the SJWs

And they're just fighting for the "white team"

but holy fuck. BREAD from vagina, YOGURT from vagina, mixing period blood in food, in wine, ON YOUR FACE... this is beyond a normal sexual interest

They're both rooted in cultural marxism

i heard this thing on npr a while back, it was from the woman who wrote the vagina monologues, she was reading an essay about the garden of eden, and how god is patriarchy trying to suppress women's natural power. it was some insane shit, i had to listen to it to prove to myself that i could do it. it was so bad, women in the audience were snapping their fingers and shit, probably flicking their beans. it was pretty informative though, of what the deep feminist mind really thinks.

All they disagree on is who the oppressor is

and she talked about her vagina A LOT

This stuff isn't nearly as palletable to normies as they think it is

i know a lot about weird fetishes and the like, and ive seen a lot of veeeeery out there things to sexualise. but very few fetishes try to turn themselves into actual philosophical movements

furrys are one, which is why people hate them so much

but this vagina obsession that feminists have is rather extreme. even japanese porn isnt that perverse

Honestly I expect the Harvard study to have lots of ramifications

Other way around. It’s the feminist movement that created the fetish

now that im thinking about it, there is a male equivilant, although it is all hentai and just taken as a fetish. an artist that is rather famous for literally fetishizing misogyny

he made a doujin a few years back of feminists making false rape claims and ruining lives, only for their victims to gang up on them and gang rape them. a lot of twitter people got mad, and he made a 'response' picture of a twitter girl telling him to go die, only to get raped herself

asanagi is the artists name, though i wouldnt look him up unless you like that kind of stuff

i would have done the same thing if i were him, best thing to do in those situations is to double down

What are we sperging out about tonight?

i mean, nothing they could say wouldve changed his fans minds. he is a top tier artist, and rather legendary. unfortunately the fetishes he works on are veeery out there. even normal rape doujin and the like dont go as far as he does

@Veritas Prognostician looks like cartoon porn Talk

Sounds about right.

it was the killstream, then feminists and their vagina obsession, then i brought up asanagi and what he went through years ago on twitter

I'll trust you this time grayfag.

He's a good gray. I can vouch

Mmm. All right then.

We don't need more Ralphfags.

how does one stop being grey? post more?

Just keep shitposting

👌

lol, i can do that

I think you meant to say, “Aye, I could do that”.

shame you guys dont have an anime section. looooots of spicy goblin slayer memes out there this past week

Go to Krauts server with that degeneracy.

shit posting is supposed to be degenerate. thats why its shit posting

@Cirno post them in <#372508286529961996>

Well, there you go.

then watch as people sperg about the animu and mango

Oh god, nowhere is safe from it

Goblin Slayer does bring up a good point there.

Why does the left all of a sudden find Japan okay to criticize but no Islam?

🤔

because japan rejects social justice

Because they're white when it's convenient

"muh muslims are oppressed"

I mean, Islam *really* rejects social justice

Asians are basically whites in terms of class in the west

anime is fascist now

I mean, shit I don't know, they're still not really allowed to have an actual military force.

japanese society is extremely anti social justice, and is very anti political correctness. islam PRETENDS to be pro social justice,

I don't think it's any coincidence that anime has exploded in popularity in recent years

It feels genuine in a sea of SJW-converged western shit

and yes, anime has exploded cause anime rejects the shitty sjw stuff that kills american shows

compare marvel comics with my hero acadamia

the show that is a love letter to american comics is more genuine than said comics currently

compare one punch man to literally any hollywood action movie. that show is literally about a mary sue character, and is a far better action story than nearly anything hollywood has ever made

Mmm. I don't do much Japan shit, because I'm not a weeb, but I do like the shit that seems to form a cultural intersection with western stuff.

Shit like Dark Souls and Cowboy Bebop really sticks out to me.

there are a lot of 'gateway' animes, which are what you're discribing

fullmetal alchemist, one punch man, my hero acadamia. things that americans can watch without being into japanese shit

things with good english dubs

there are a few more but i cant think of them off the top of my head

Having said that I'm not gonna pretend like I wasn't watching the Pokemon marathon for a few weeks.

god i havent seen that show in years

It's a show that's really gone on far longer than it should have.

Ash stopped having any interesting development after the Johto League.

lol

see, i havent seen it in so long i dont have any idea what johto is

last thing i saw was the mewtwo movie

i saw that in theaters as a kid

tl;dr, Ash finally actually beats Gary, and has completely failed at any real growth beyond that point.

i didnt see it in theaters, but i had the vhs, which came with a mewtwo card

theater did too

The movie came with some sort of card. I don't know if it was a Mewtwo card though.

I know the second one came with a special Mew one.

i still have a bunch of pokemon stuff somewhere

I'm not a weeb but at this point I prefer anime to western animation by a mile

I gave all my card that I had to my kid brother.

i dont watch any animated shows at the moment

I really don't either. I don't watch TV, and I don't have any current subscriptions to any streaming services.

It depends for me. I'm really picky in general

The only sort of "kids" thing that I follow any more is the Sonic comics. Those are pretty good.

typically, to get made into an anime, you need to be very successful in manga or light novels. it is very meritocratic, so most animes are very good. trash still gets through, but all that matter in the industry is success. SJW stuff, which never sells, would not make it in the japanese market. at all.

Oh yeah, for sure

and that industry is competitive as fuuuuuck

I think you see a lot more creativity because most anime is based on manga, and mangas usually have a single writer

I don't now man, I've seen plenty of anime that's tantamounted to "a bunch of school age kids go on a wacky adventure to breakup their mundane school lives"

Nothing is made by committee

You're inevitably going to have shit with that kind of volume

'successful' does not automatically mean 'good'. it has to make money, and those kinds of stories are popular over there

I used to know this one weeb that literally wouldn't shut up to me about Sailor Moon.

and some of them can be very good

Gave me the usual lines of "You have to watch a good sub, the dub ruins it". I did try a sub, and I still found it annoying.

sailor moon is a shoujo, which is designed for girls age 8-16. it is popular as fuck for that demographic

He was like a 30 year old dude.

Older than I am.

Okay that's kind of weird

you would want a seinen, which is designed for males age 18+

my favorite anime is the older movies from the 80s and 90s, there are some decent shows too
but i think 98% of anime is shit, i cant stand the schoolgirl stuff, it really tainted the whole genre for me

I think one reason I like it is because you have sutff for adults that isn't some tryhard comedy

ive no idea why shoujos are popular among adult men in america. some can be good, and ive heard that shows like pretty cure feature a lot of extreme and excellent action, so i can understand on those shows

There is that sort of problem here.

but most shoujo feature a lot of romance and comedy

Nobody here wants to make a "serious" cartoon for adults.

good point

Like that's what stood out about Samurai Jack Season 5.

Fundamental failure to understand the market on their part

First we got killed in cars, now we're getting killed in animation

the last one was what, heavy metal?

heavy metal 2?

i mean, even shonen, which are designed for males aged 8-16, come across as adult over here cause of the excessive blood and violence usually in them

one piece and naruto being the go to examples of such shows

I don't know. I think Serious Cartoons in general are pretty dead.

you wont find any serious cartoons in america outside of crowd funded ones and the like. most TV networks think 'cartoon = kids'

Everything here in the west has to be super self aware half-drawn slapstick. Like they're trying to be sunday strips without any of the wit.

did anyone have the encore action channel growing up? they aired anime movies geared towards an adult audience
that was the shit when i was little

That's what happens when shit is designed by committee

however, there are a few that are partually serious

avatar: the last airbender was pretty good

not the sequel series though

is pokemon and digimon anime?

yes

Yes

ok

There was that one furry that was making a Star Fox cartoon, and he finally finished the first episode. And apparently the Adult Swim guys watched it, and didn't like it because it was too serious.

pretty sure pokemon was the first anime i saw then

the man in charge of adult swim hates animation

he said so himself years ago

It shows

I guess so huh.

Shit he's still working on that cartoon.

I remember it because the animation quality is ridiculous, even though it's a one man job.

yo

now, when you say serious, what exactly do you mean by that?

non-comedic?

I imagine so, yeah

I honestly don't know, I didn't see the original source.

As far as adult animation in the US goes, I can think of

Rick and Morty, Family Guy, American Dad, Archer

if you want serious shows with good plot, i can find a few good ones for you in anime, should you want me to

Basically everybody just aping off of The Simpsons.

death note comes to mind, so long as you ignore the fanbase and just watch the show

😃

probably

Death Note is a good one

ive been talking about anime for the past 20 min, so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_DTgzCjv4U

7

That animation is fucking ridiculous. He does everything by himself.

Even most of the voices.

whoa, is the reason that anime has so much exposition due to them being adapted from manga?

yes and no

animating talking is cheaper

good point

but manga does have a loooooot of talking, since it can get away with it easiest

i hate exposition

exposition can be fun. depends on how it's handled

It's a consequence of the source material, yeah

are there any animes that dont rely on it?

it's too tedious for me

there are very few that simply 'show' everything, as it can be extremely difficult to get a point across with only images in most shows

It's even worse in games because playing it is the point

And exposition gets in the way of that

plus, anime plots tend to be... weird

To be fair, it's not just anime that gets heavy handed with the exposition.

American comics are really bad about it too.

tbh im fine with it. most shows know that its annoying, and make it quick and/or funny

Actually, the thing that pisses me off in anime isn't exposition. It's filler.

OH.... show that doesnt do that: one punch man. go watch that

he actually makes people skip exposition

cause he's heard it all

Oh yes

Filler is cancer

i watched 3 episodes, didnt care or it

You've got to skip the filler

ah, too bad. very good show

I enjoyed it

Like in Dragon Ball Z, when a fight is absorbed by about 20 minutes of sidelined faggots gasping.

lol

lol, that was due to budget problems

dragonball z has a looooot of financial issues

at the beginning

gotta check on goku, and see what he is doing

Which is surprising

Given the popularity of the source material