Depends which God you are talking about

Abrahamic

Even Jesus’s miracles in the Bible is done by the will/permission of the father.

While he was on Earth

Is KEK Abrahamic?

When healing people

Moses and Israelites were saved by the splitting of the red sea from Pharoah

Muhammad saww healed by the permission of God.

Prophets must prophecise, receive revelation and perform miracles.

I thought you were Christian ?

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

Muhammad didn't perform any miracle though.

That's why the Jews rejected him, and it led to Muhammad doing a 180 and declaring the Jews the worst of creatures.

That, and the whole heretical fanfic he came up with about the characters from the Talmud and the Bible.

I'm Catholic but not hardcore

Yes in our narrations, he did perform miracles and people did accept him, can I ask you what is your foundation, which scripture do you follow ?

I don't, I just read the book 13 times

>Naught prevented Us from sending the signs (bial-ayati) but that the ancients cried lies to them; and We brought Thamood the She-camel visible, but they did her wrong. And We do not send the signs, except to frighten. S. 17:59

So are you defending from the Catholic Bible position or an atheistic one ?

I'm not defending. Believe whatever to want to

Just don't tell me what to believe

When did i lol

I just asked what position are you defending from

you didn't but that's when I get mad

>They say, 'Why does he not bring us a sign (ayatin) from his Lord?' Has there not come to them the clear sign (bayyinatu) of what is in the former scrolls? S. 20:133

Are you a Christian ? @DanielKO

Yes.

This verse is about a group of Makkan idolators who kept asking from a sign from their lord in haste and this verse is just simply saying to that specific group that the Qur’an itself is a sign from a Lord and a miracle, he did perform miracles in the Qur’an and our other traditions. Can I ask you do you believe the Old Testament and the New to be the unaltered word of God ?

@DanielKO

The canonised scriptures

if the bible is wrong, the quran is even more wrong

Do you believe to be the unaltered word of Allah, even after a goat ate part of it?

Nope, you don’t know our belief @Deleted User

Also that is a weak hadith narration @DanielKO

And after some random dude decided to steal everyone's Qurans and make his own edition, then burn the originals?

and you don't know shit @Deleted User

Aw shiet, let's be selective about the hadiths, why not?

Nope the chain of narration is weak

Who was Aisha anyway? She was a woman, her word means nothing.

I mean, a child.

it's not like the muzzies have ever cherry picked anything... baka

And Umar was a disciple/companion who standardized it into one dialect that’s all

And is the Bible preserved yes or no ?

Let's burn the originals, what's the logic in that?

The bible has changed and we know how much and when. WE, the Catholics, told you about it.

Because we actually care about the truth.

Did you hear about the dozens or so different Qurans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcoMB8nJWmw

We still have the other dialects, he just ordered it to be burned because Islam was spreading and it would be easier to get non Arabs to learn one dialect, however we still have the 7 other dialects preserved through oral tradition and they don’t contradict in meaning.

Omg hatun tash

26 different Qurans. Theological differences.

All arabic.

reeee

How can that be, if the are all the perfect word of Allah?

It’s not 26 qurans, it’s 7 different dialects of Arabic, I read 30 percent Fusha Arabic

Which dialect did Allah speak?

And why do different dialects have different pronouns when they have theological implications, if changed?

Isn't heretical to have imperfect Qurans?

Shouldn't you be waging a holy war against corruption of the Quran?

Sounds like you guys don't like having corrupted scriptures.

The Qur’an in it’s different dialects, the letters are the same but the marks on top of the words is different which changes the sound in pronouncing the word but the meaning is still the same. I’ll take a picture.

Lol you guys don’t even have a single manuscript from the first century

Here's how we know what was originally in the scriptures: there were many manuscripts, reproduced all over the middle east, asia, africa and europe. The ones the Muslims didn't destroy during their conquest wars, we got to excavate. And we can cross-reference them.

Most changes are transcription errors.

Umar and Zayd were arguing about different dialects of the Qur’an and the Prophet saww said stop arguing and allowed both dialects, but your christian propagandists, don’t tell you that.

Lol Muslims did not destroy all your manuscripts

Thanks for destroying the True Cross by the way.

We'll repay you some day.

Are you going to blame us for losing old testsment manuscripts as well ?

Heck an Arab boy found the dead sea scrolls book

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre_1009

Still that wasn't what made Europe Deus Vult all over them.

The Prophet saww was revealed the Qur’an in the Quraishi dialect which Uthman ra ordered for it to be compiled into one text in priority over the others in written form, but people already orally memorised the other 6 ahruf (dialects) of the Qur’an hence we still have them today and if you actually open it, they do not contradict/difference in meaning. Plus the Prophet saww himself allowed these 6 dialects and even stopped an argument between Uthman ra and Zayd ra and said both of your dialects are correct.

Second of all, I have nothing to do with destroying the True Cross.

Shit happens, didnt others destroy things in Egypt

Alexandria

Around the world.

I don't want to harm you. All I want is your death cult to end.

That’s a positive, at least you said you don’t want to harm me.

The first sign of your soft side lol

I leave the violent threats to your side.

We Christians can only hope to rescue as many of you as possible.

How rescue ?

https://youtu.be/VN7M8rrXZXU?t=9m

CHOO CHOO MOTHERFUCKER ALL ABOARD THE LOVE TRAIN

You want some love?

I don’t care about hate a Muslim day, i’m still alive.

For now

And I watched the video.

That was clearly a hoax.

How nice of you lol @Fulcrum010

Are you immortal?

At least DKO does not want to kill me

We all going to die someday

The soul is immortal but not the body.

......

Well eternal

Not immortal

Pretty sure dark souls is not a eternal franchise

No the soul