Message from @DanielKO

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I'm not defending. Believe whatever to want to

Just don't tell me what to believe

2018-04-09 20:08:21 UTC  

When did i lol

2018-04-09 20:08:39 UTC  

I just asked what position are you defending from

you didn't but that's when I get mad

2018-04-09 20:09:20 UTC  

>They say, 'Why does he not bring us a sign (ayatin) from his Lord?' Has there not come to them the clear sign (bayyinatu) of what is in the former scrolls? S. 20:133

2018-04-09 20:09:43 UTC  

Are you a Christian ? @DanielKO

2018-04-09 20:10:46 UTC  

Yes.

2018-04-09 20:15:20 UTC  

This verse is about a group of Makkan idolators who kept asking from a sign from their lord in haste and this verse is just simply saying to that specific group that the Qur’an itself is a sign from a Lord and a miracle, he did perform miracles in the Qur’an and our other traditions. Can I ask you do you believe the Old Testament and the New to be the unaltered word of God ?

2018-04-09 20:15:25 UTC  
2018-04-09 20:15:36 UTC  

The canonised scriptures

2018-04-09 20:15:56 UTC  

if the bible is wrong, the quran is even more wrong

2018-04-09 20:16:11 UTC  

Do you believe to be the unaltered word of Allah, even after a goat ate part of it?

2018-04-09 20:16:21 UTC  

Nope, you don’t know our belief @Deleted User

2018-04-09 20:16:29 UTC  

Also that is a weak hadith narration @DanielKO

2018-04-09 20:16:30 UTC  

And after some random dude decided to steal everyone's Qurans and make his own edition, then burn the originals?

2018-04-09 20:16:31 UTC  

and you don't know shit @Deleted User

2018-04-09 20:16:43 UTC  

Aw shiet, let's be selective about the hadiths, why not?

2018-04-09 20:17:01 UTC  

Nope the chain of narration is weak

2018-04-09 20:17:02 UTC  

Who was Aisha anyway? She was a woman, her word means nothing.

2018-04-09 20:17:08 UTC  

I mean, a child.

2018-04-09 20:17:13 UTC  

it's not like the muzzies have ever cherry picked anything... baka

2018-04-09 20:17:15 UTC  

And Umar was a disciple/companion who standardized it into one dialect that’s all

2018-04-09 20:17:26 UTC  

And is the Bible preserved yes or no ?

2018-04-09 20:17:32 UTC  

Let's burn the originals, what's the logic in that?

2018-04-09 20:17:52 UTC  

The bible has changed and we know how much and when. WE, the Catholics, told you about it.

2018-04-09 20:17:58 UTC  

Because we actually care about the truth.

2018-04-09 20:18:25 UTC  

Did you hear about the dozens or so different Qurans?

2018-04-09 20:18:40 UTC  

We still have the other dialects, he just ordered it to be burned because Islam was spreading and it would be easier to get non Arabs to learn one dialect, however we still have the 7 other dialects preserved through oral tradition and they don’t contradict in meaning.

2018-04-09 20:18:45 UTC  

Omg hatun tash

2018-04-09 20:18:50 UTC  

26 different Qurans. Theological differences.

2018-04-09 20:18:52 UTC  

All arabic.

2018-04-09 20:18:53 UTC  

reeee

2018-04-09 20:19:06 UTC  

How can that be, if the are all the perfect word of Allah?

2018-04-09 20:19:13 UTC  

It’s not 26 qurans, it’s 7 different dialects of Arabic, I read 30 percent Fusha Arabic

2018-04-09 20:19:23 UTC  

Which dialect did Allah speak?

2018-04-09 20:19:39 UTC  

And why do different dialects have different pronouns when they have theological implications, if changed?

2018-04-09 20:20:14 UTC  

Isn't heretical to have imperfect Qurans?

2018-04-09 20:20:23 UTC  

Shouldn't you be waging a holy war against corruption of the Quran?

2018-04-09 20:20:35 UTC  

Sounds like you guys don't like having corrupted scriptures.