so now we have a church that has to left shift with the masses only because we don't have the law of consecration

yup

interesting point

because of dalitry then, the entire church is not as resilient now

the money feeds the enormous bureaucracy that's grown like a cancer

does the first presidency even run the church anymore?

and the apostles

i doubt it

there is some unseen machinery that's running the whole operation

i was looking up russell nelson, he actually said some pretty based things in the past

"True, in the early days of the Church, conversion often meant emigration as well. But now the gathering takes place in each nation. … The place of gathering for Brazilian Saints is in Brazil; the place of gathering for Nigerian Saints is in Nigeria; the place of gathering for Korean Saints is in Korea; and so forth. Zion is ‘the pure in heart.’"

so, someone/something got to him and changed his opinion

yes

the PR people

the gathering place of white people is america, the gathering place for everyone else is their racial homeland

but then correlation said otherwise

not allowed to revelate

that's my conclusion as well though - the church is restored, but the people it's restored to are chained down by a bureaucracy

having the form of godliness but denying the power thereof

WE NEED A CULTURAL WAVE

TO GET CLEAR ON OUR VALUES

AND REDISCOVER THE WEST

UNTIL THAT POINT, WE ARE NOT READY FOR POWER TRANSFER

GIB

ETHNOSTATE

Americans need value system

Places and homelands that deserve to exist, not Phoenix Arizonas

Which they must build through sense of purpose, through cherishing of a common culture

America and Europe need to be depopulated and left to contain things that deserve to exist

Small but meaningful things, like in middle ages

and white sharia and some kind of authority to rain hell on infidels, but it must not be pope, he cucked and stuff

even worse than being cucked, he is catholic

he's the current frontman for the group that ruined europe from the start

priorities 1898 : POGROM JEWS

priorities 2017: PLS NO THREAD ON ME

In all seriousness

scaling down societies is the only sane option for anybody who knows where growth leads

it is as simple as that

The Nazis carried the gita

people who still negotiate around the fact that society needs an emergency brake in terms of production and consumption

are in fact still negotiating around their own refusal to ceede their comforts

or are simply declinists

The Nazis knew what was valuable

Hmmm

Nazis rained hell on pretty much everything that wasnt Germany

real Nazism was my shit to the letter

they considered all products of culture relative

in comparison to the importance of biological volk

They burned books that pushed non aryan ideals

they also burned Rotterdam

people are bitching about that to this very day

and warszaw and exeter and cantenbury

et cetera

Nazisms problem was that they thought everything can be engineered

Which is so typically German

Like, we will wipe out everything nadcompletely shake society to it's foundations

and afterwards we will just do beep bop beep and voila, it will be fixed

And to an extent, Hitler and his circle were *consciouslly* calculative about this

They were perfectly aware that they are producing a population that will be artificially engineered for max conformism by wiping out the sense of all of their pre-existing values

like Church, traditional mores, etc

all of these things that were not specifically Nazi were made to be as irrelevant as possible

Christianity is part of the dalitry though

But Hitler was fine with that, he had only the goal in mind, and how are Germans going to reach that goal, which means, in what shape, he absolutely cared not to think about

That was not arbitrary

This is why Hitler came up with Lebensborn program

The top guys did hardcore Hinduism

Which purposefully undermined all traditional mores in order to produce population that would be 100% conformed to power

That's why they used a Hindu symbol but tipped on am angle specifically to be incompatible with the Christian cross

None of this stuff was arbitrary if you know what you're looking at

Swastika was discovered by Volkisch circles in Central and Easern Europe as early as late 19th century

It was used by Slavic volkisch circles as well

I mean "discoverd" in sense of "became popular"

Russian Empress had it as her own personal symbol

NAZISM WAS TOO MODERNISTIC

coincidentally, Russian Empress was ethnic German too

Nazim was too conformist

Musolini's modernism was less conformist

CONFORMITY ARISES FROM IDEOLOGY

WE NEED ARISTOCRACY

NO DICTATOR CAN DO WHAT IT DOES

Musolini however, despite being a dictator, still acted basically as a regent for Italian king

FASCISM MADE MORE SENSE ECONOMICALLY AS WELL

UNFORTUNATELY, ITALY WILL TAKE MANY GENERATIONS TO HEAL

AGAIN MODERN METHODS CANNOT WORK

TOO BAD AS THEY HAD AWESOME UNIFORMS

Fascism in Italy was more organic

people were pleased with it

Italy, unlike Germany, considered it a sane policy to establish a colonial empire of her own, which Hitler considered a folly

Hitler considered that the only path for Germany is to acquire land in the east, and completely ridiculed colonialism in Mein Kampf as a waste of time

In all honesty, British were superior

British military was simply flawless, and it only took an exceptional tactician such as Rommel to be able to give British setbacks

British intelligence and air force, and especially civillan commitment was superb

Germans needed to be constantly apparently bombarded with propaganda to stay in the war effort, while British simply stood firm on their own

British senseof unshakeable calm in face of evident dangers

The British "is there any other option than winning?" mentality

Shame what that nation has fallen to currently represent

What was fascist economics

Non Marxist socialism, the thing prozak denies even exists

read actual Hitler books instead of internet forums and you will learn it easily

by denying that economic model exists and conflating it with Marxism, jew prozak is taking advantage of the fact that altright spergs are naive idiots who only read forums and not books

he knows they are too lazy to look up what anything really is, so he can easily fill their goy heads full of lies that sound convincing and advance his ideas

yes

Documentaries and popular science shit actually exacerbate this problem

they result in a populace with even fewer people who are inclined or able to read fully adult level writings on any topic, yet paradoxically believe themselves to be more informed

jews on the other band have always been proudly scholastic and financial

this guy knows his stuff

Making their kids learn to sit and read for hours until they are the only people who even know what history even is our how anything works

so they can easily hoodwink the ignorant populace

you could say their plan for themselves is to be a kind of malevolent brahmins

those two headed cows

taking the priestly spiritual commander role without bringing light and knowledge to uplift society as a whole, but instead widening the knowledge gap as much as possible

The Veda actually describe people like them, and what the outcome is for Brahmanas who are stingy in that sense, but I think jews are unique in being a whole race of them

jews aren't Buddhist though

...what?

I'll forgive it based on your avatar, which gives me some significant background information about you

@Deleted User 57835c2c there was some other weird stuff nelson said

like that he knew of no sins that weren't forgiveable

...what

which goes explicitly against the doctrine of the unforgiveable sin

i dunno man, it was just weird

i don't know what's happening to the church

i guess i should have recorded it

it's being correlated

correlated to marxism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbzP2cS7Z70

This was a good one

I am not angry at the world

the world is fine

beautiful even

I am angry at dalits

humans are masters of fucking up a good thing

no they aren't, dalits are

right

what i meant

@diversity_is_racism have you checked out mournlord

http://fchan.us/ah/thumb/ah_1290333005127s.forkappy_streakskappysized.jpg

I THOUGHT SO

AT THIS POINT, THE NAME SEEMS FAMILIAR

dungeon synth

@diversity_is_racism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGXvHisFmzw

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2017/05/a-viable-future-of-west-must-be.html

one of the most revolting videos I've seen in a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNL4aFQZ60

such a bleak nightmare

their vision is the greatest dead end

almost exactly as many thumbs down as up for this video

that portends an even split for the coming war over this "vision"

It's very heartening to see strong resistance to this bleak, dead-end "vision" of an egalitarian multiculturalism that bulldozes everything good and beautiful and unique.

youtube comment: "The west is dead, and we killed it."

"Nothing says "buy this car" like sodomy and ethnocide of European Canadians..... you got me hook line and sinker Chevrolet. Maybe I will buy a car for my wife's Nigerian son"

Sounds like an accurate description of Canada

and America

and Europe

and every other place where white people have lost their minds

Canadians signal hard on this because of an inferiority complex of being right next to a brother who's 10 times bigger and stronger--they want to differentiate themselves by being a "superior" version of what they believe their big brother wants to be

but resistance to this in Canada is probably comparable to what it is elsewhere, just pushed more underground by louder egalitarians who push the egalitarian vision harder to the point that the appearance is that there's no opposition

Whites are honestly revolting creatures

I only stick up for them because the alternatives are down right horrific

What race are you @Deleted User 57835c2c

Fully ghostly white to the point Scandinavians tell me to get a tan

I am the fairest of them all

I am so white I can talk about nordics like they are a different species

Whites are nice people, just because the jew manipulated us with their psychological jewry shit doesn't mean whites are repulsive

https://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.com/2017/05/studies-r-us.html

SJWs ruining history again

They tried to manipulate me too but always failed

so I don't know

"Making their kids learn to sit and read for hours until they are the only people who even know what history even is our how anything works"

This is essentially what is stated in The Protocols

"the huge existing gap between proper understanding of historical forces and human nature of the jews and of the goyim

The goyim have lost the habit of thinking unless prompted by
the suggestions of our specialists. Therefore they do not
see the
urgent necessity of what we, when our kingdom comes, shall adopt
at once, namely this, that it is essential to teach in national
schools one simple, true piece of knowledge, the basis of all
knowledge
--
the knowledge of the structure of human lif
e, of
social existence, which requires division of labour, and,
consequently, the division of men into classes and conditions. It
is essential for all to know that owing to difference in the
objects of human activity there cannot be any equality, that he
w
ho by any act of his compromises a whole class cannot be equally
responsible before the law with him who affects no one but only
his own honour. The true knowledge of the structure of society,
into the secrets of which we do not admit the goyim, would
demo
nstrate to all men that the positions and work must be kept
within a certain circle, that they may not become a source of
human suffering, arising from an education which does not
correspond with the work which individuals are called upon to do.
After a th
orough study of this knowledge the peoples will
voluntarily submit to authority and accept such position as is
appointed them in the State. In the present state of knowledge
and the direction we have given to its development the people,
blindly believing t
hings in print cherishes thanks to
promptings intended to mislead and to its own ignorance a
blind hatred towards all conditions which it considers above
itself, for it has no understanding of the meaning of class and
condition.

Also, perhaps the most lucid

" In order to put public opinion into our hands we must bring
it into a state of bewilderment by giving expression from all
sides to so many contradictory opinions and for such length of
time as will suffice to make the GOYIM lose their
heads in the labyrinth and come to see that the best thing is to have no
opinion of any kind in matters political, which it is not given
to the public to understand, because they are understood only by
him who guides the public. This is the first secret. "

" Object of the intensification of armaments. Ferments Secrecy means success in the political. The Press and public opinion. The guns of America, China and Japan.
The intensification of armaments, the increase of police
forces are all essential for the completion of the
aforementioned plans. What we have to get at is that there should
be in all the States of the world, besides ourselves, only the
masses of the proletariat, a few millionaries devoted to our
interests, police and soldiers. "

Remember, all of this was published prior to even WW I, let alone later events

There is a masonic element to all of this

The conspiracy of World Jewry is a masonic, Luciferian one.

These labels are meaningless

It's the same thing as saying "you know the conspiracy of the kingdom of god, it's a a christian conspiracy"

it's the kind of doctrinary thinking which prevented Christendom from seeing transcendent realities and helped it embark on the path it's currently on, which corresponds to the above described processes

Not meaningless

Discrete and meaningful

Will elaborate later

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/inspiration-imagination-and-intuition.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAaANXZUMAIfY0a.jpg

Wow. Creepy as hell @devolved

what in the name of God or the Devil are they touching?

GOATSE

Filth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ncwCETyQlk#t=19m15s

they're sticking their hands into the holy asshole

when it lights up, they'll have found the gay agent to be ambassador to planet earth

Can somebody explain to me why anybody would want to be a civic nationalist? Isnt the entire point of a nation to represent a racial stock, i dont care whether somebody has a paper that makes him x he isnt and he and his ancestors will never be x, the nation fosters and increases the survival and improvement of a stock of people and the expansion of its territorial/material and spiritual capital. Culture and Race are deeple interdependent and cant be deconflated they both act recursively. The perception of reality is different between racial stocks, understanding and cooperation is therefore way more difficualt and costly with outsiders. There is no incentive to share ressources with foreigners who are competitors for the limited ressources of a nation, if one wanted to have some type of socialistic policies than that can only happen non-parasitical within a highly homogenious society that has high genetical similarity.

CIVIC NATIONALIST = RINOs INTERPRETING NATIONALISM

NATIONALISM HAS ALWAYS MEANT ETHNO-NATIONALISM

IT IS JUST THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE ILLITERATES, ESPECIALLY IN MEDIA

I wouldnt even call them illiterate the people who support it know exactly what they are doing and why.

People dont have a problem with suffering, they have a problem with unnecessary suffering. They are quite willing to endure great amounts of pain if it is in pursuit of a goal they deem valuable. The amount of pain one is willing to endure is proportional to the value that the goal has. A Goal for which one is willing to die has therefore the highest value and therefore is something that gives meaning beyond ones mere existence.

I am not sure about the last one have to rewrite it a little i think

SEND IT TO ME IN ESSAY FORMAT, AND LET US CONSIDER IT FOR AMERIKA: [email protected] <-- YES WHAT A CREATIVE EMAIL ADDRESS

IT IS NOT THE MANIPULATORS WHO ARE THE PROBLEM

IT IS THE VAST NUMBER OF ILLITERATES WHO DO NOT OBJECT

JUST LIKE IN DEMOCRACY: WE ARE IN CONTROL, BUT REFUSE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR ACTIONS

@MK while your criticism of civic nationalism is well founded, the entire point of a nation is not simply to represent a racial stock, there are many nations within the white race or other races. Your own paragraph has the right elements, where you mention that *Culture and Race are deeply interdependent and can't be conflated*

The key I think is the abstraction "ethnoculture"

a term that encompasses both these non-reducible elements

the best example if I think the Jews

note that Israel seems to be generally accepted as having a foundation in a moral basis even seperately from the events of the Holocaust

a Nation for the Jews is seen by some as an intrinsically good thing

I think this is partly because their nationhood (on this basis of ethnoculture) is intuitively appealing

Civic Nationalism and purely race based Nationalism both deny important aspects of human groups I think

Civic Nationalism is though usually just a front for outright leftism

but even in an ideal state it is not complete

your entry about suffering is quite good

I would maybe not use "mere" existence

We should honestly introduce the serious debates on politics in nationalist discourses

Most people are completely illiterate in politics, which as someone defined, is the art of possible

Instead they only have theories on social relations

Which though correct, fail to be applied politically due to the lack of understanding of few principal things

1. conflicts

2. power

3. power strucures

4. hierarchy, rule and obedience to rule

5. ideology

Political struggle is a long term enterprise, in which triumph those who have a precise goal, course and method

Nationalists don't win because they mistake goals for sentiments

They fail to identify threats

They don't even acknowledge other parties in politics, who have their own goals and their own methods and courses

But insist that it is all one great mass dellusion

@fallot HENCE THE FOUR PILLARS

@The Enlightened Shepherd NATIONALISTS DO NOT WIN FOR THOSE REASONS AND ALSO BECAUSE THEY ARE ARGUING AGAINST SELFISHNESS

whats the best way to deal with ppl who deny white genocide

genocide

no like on an individual level

say there were a debate

theres always a huge chimpout even if u get trufax

the "white genocide" meme doesn't really bear defending

it's mostly stupid

outside of specific locales

like africa

well its true that whites are dyin younger and more often

or, call it a "soft genocide"

most from drug and alcohol addiction

dying of despair or smthn

suicide and giving up

whites are not being systematically targeted and expelled, except in some places in africa

still a cultural genocide imho.

Dehumanize and destroy

but the effects of the "soft genocide" are more or less the same

yeah

that's how i would argue it i guess