Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd
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JUST LIKE IN DEMOCRACY: WE ARE IN CONTROL, BUT REFUSE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR ACTIONS
@MK while your criticism of civic nationalism is well founded, the entire point of a nation is not simply to represent a racial stock, there are many nations within the white race or other races. Your own paragraph has the right elements, where you mention that *Culture and Race are deeply interdependent and can't be conflated*
The key I think is the abstraction "ethnoculture"
a term that encompasses both these non-reducible elements
the best example if I think the Jews
note that Israel seems to be generally accepted as having a foundation in a moral basis even seperately from the events of the Holocaust
a Nation for the Jews is seen by some as an intrinsically good thing
I think this is partly because their nationhood (on this basis of ethnoculture) is intuitively appealing
Civic Nationalism and purely race based Nationalism both deny important aspects of human groups I think
Civic Nationalism is though usually just a front for outright leftism
but even in an ideal state it is not complete
your entry about suffering is quite good
I would maybe not use "mere" existence
We should honestly introduce the serious debates on politics in nationalist discourses
Most people are completely illiterate in politics, which as someone defined, is the art of possible
Instead they only have theories on social relations
Which though correct, fail to be applied politically due to the lack of understanding of few principal things
1. conflicts
2. power
3. power strucures
5. ideology
Political struggle is a long term enterprise, in which triumph those who have a precise goal, course and method
Nationalists don't win because they mistake goals for sentiments
They fail to identify threats
They don't even acknowledge other parties in politics, who have their own goals and their own methods and courses
But insist that it is all one great mass dellusion
@fallot HENCE THE FOUR PILLARS
@The Enlightened Shepherd NATIONALISTS DO NOT WIN FOR THOSE REASONS AND ALSO BECAUSE THEY ARE ARGUING AGAINST SELFISHNESS
whats the best way to deal with ppl who deny white genocide
genocide
no like on an individual level
say there were a debate
theres always a huge chimpout even if u get trufax
the "white genocide" meme doesn't really bear defending
it's mostly stupid
outside of specific locales
like africa
well its true that whites are dyin younger and more often
or, call it a "soft genocide"
most from drug and alcohol addiction