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2017-04-11 12:59:15 UTC

a triangle of korea, japan and american fleets there are probably active round o clock

2017-04-11 13:51:52 UTC

Did you ever believe in God @The Enlightened Shepherd

2017-04-11 13:52:33 UTC

How common is godlessness among your peers anecdotally, i.e no stats

2017-04-11 15:26:12 UTC

define my peers

2017-04-11 15:51:48 UTC

your friends, people your generation/near your age you work/study with

2017-04-11 16:04:25 UTC

@fallot WE HAVE NUCLEAR WARHEADS FOR TORPEDOES, CRUISE MISSILES AND ANTI-SHIP (WAVE-SKIMMING) MISSILES

2017-04-11 16:04:30 UTC

CRUISE MISSILES HAVE WINGS

2017-04-11 16:04:38 UTC

ANTI-SHIP MISSILES LOOK LIKE REGULAR ROCKETS

2017-04-11 16:04:53 UTC

TORPEDOES ARE YOUR BEST BET BECAUSE THEY CAN TRAVEL SEVERAL MILES

2017-04-11 16:05:13 UTC

SO A SUB COULD HANG OUT OUTSIDE THE BUOY LINE AND FIRE ONE INTO THE CENTER OF A GROUP

2017-04-11 16:05:15 UTC

@fallot i was born at the time when, after collapse of socialism

2017-04-11 16:05:22 UTC

the counrty was getting increasingly spiritual

2017-04-11 16:05:36 UTC

and was baptized at the age of 4 i believe, in Serbian Orthodox Church

2017-04-11 16:06:16 UTC

My most immediate friends aren't religious, but society in general is latently religious, and massively declares as such, over 98% of people declaring as religious

2017-04-11 16:06:20 UTC

but it's only declaration

2017-04-11 16:06:54 UTC

herds understanding of religion, always includes murder, group sex, drugs, foul language etc

2017-04-11 16:06:56 UTC

ONE CAN FEEL RELIGIOUS

2017-04-11 16:07:01 UTC

WITHOUT WANTING TO GO TO CHURCH

2017-04-11 16:07:18 UTC

@diversity_is_racism , north korea doesn't though

2017-04-11 16:07:46 UTC

are you immediate friends exceptional

2017-04-11 16:07:56 UTC

among people like them

2017-04-11 16:08:07 UTC

are you immediate friends exceptional

2017-04-11 16:08:11 UTC

among people like them

2017-04-11 16:08:16 UTC
2017-04-11 16:08:29 UTC

i subscribed to orthodox theology, monarchism and worldview at one point in the past, briefly

2017-04-11 16:08:52 UTC

a lot of gay mystical nazis approach religion from a sensual or pragmatic perspective

2017-04-11 16:08:55 UTC

but at that time i was leaning more towards greek understanding of orthodoxy, and evne russian to an extent, than to Serbian

2017-04-11 16:09:13 UTC

Serbian orthodox Christians are mostly fervently anti-Catholic, while I was not as much

2017-04-11 16:09:55 UTC

Catholicism is to an extent, considered a mortal enemy of Serbs, and Vatican is seen as a main culprit of crimes against Serbs done by Catholics, even more than the people themselves

2017-04-11 16:10:35 UTC

what's the most major religious festival

2017-04-11 16:10:47 UTC

Christmass and Easter among Christians

2017-04-11 16:10:57 UTC

how are both celebrated, briefly

2017-04-11 16:11:05 UTC

is there any contrast to western europe/america

2017-04-11 16:11:32 UTC

Christmass by fasting and burning of those great bonfires on the christmass eve

2017-04-11 16:11:44 UTC

how many people would fast

2017-04-11 16:11:46 UTC

and by traditional lunches and religious services on christmass day itself

2017-04-11 16:11:49 UTC

depends

2017-04-11 16:12:12 UTC

full fasting would often be performed by not especially pious people due to health benefits

2017-04-11 16:12:23 UTC

if you had to just throw a %age out

2017-04-11 16:12:37 UTC

On Easter, dying eggs, fasting and "breaking" of eggs is performed

2017-04-11 16:12:52 UTC

and abstinence from all work on Good Friday

2017-04-11 16:12:59 UTC

I'm unsure

2017-04-11 16:13:08 UTC

how closely is this adhered to

2017-04-11 16:13:09 UTC

of general population, notm any perform the entire fast

2017-04-11 16:13:12 UTC

Good Friday, not working

2017-04-11 16:13:13 UTC

of pious, many do

2017-04-11 16:13:25 UTC

nobody does anything on good friday

2017-04-11 16:13:26 UTC

any length of the fast

2017-04-11 16:13:32 UTC

would count

2017-04-11 16:13:35 UTC

towards the figure

2017-04-11 16:13:45 UTC

both fastings last 40 days

2017-04-11 16:14:01 UTC

if someone even makes the intention to fast but doesn't do a single day

2017-04-11 16:14:05 UTC

I'm inclined to ask you to consider that too

2017-04-11 16:14:08 UTC

but may not be reasonable

2017-04-11 16:14:20 UTC

10% of adults?

2017-04-11 16:14:23 UTC

the rule is no meat or dairy, more strict rules which monks adhere to include no oil on certain days, and no meat whatsoever on certain days, including fish

2017-04-11 16:14:38 UTC

90% of people skipping meat for a day?

2017-04-11 16:14:56 UTC

mostof people will do the so called "small fast" of fasting for only 1 single day

2017-04-11 16:15:01 UTC

christmass eve and good firday

2017-04-11 16:15:07 UTC

if you openly don't do it

2017-04-11 16:15:15 UTC

what would be the reaction of most people

2017-04-11 16:15:19 UTC

but that practice is completely unfounded in church practice

2017-04-11 16:15:24 UTC

they wouldn't care

2017-04-11 16:15:54 UTC

thanks

2017-04-11 16:16:33 UTC

I very quickly distanced myself from Serbian approach to Orthodoxy due to a huge influx of subversive ideas and personalities

2017-04-11 16:16:46 UTC

Though at times, it is the only bullwark against reccurence of bolshevik ideas

2017-04-11 16:17:10 UTC

All Churchiness is prone to attracting obscure people with no qualities who use it to get a platform to educate others

2017-04-11 16:17:37 UTC

Also, among certain Orthodox believers are many adherents of this Eastern styled mysticism which I dislike

2017-04-11 16:17:55 UTC

what do you mean Eastern styled

2017-04-11 16:17:59 UTC

Montenegrins in general have a very peculiar approach towards religion

2017-04-11 16:18:15 UTC

oh, it's not Montenegros

2017-04-11 16:18:18 UTC

boo

2017-04-11 16:18:34 UTC

They are at soul secular and completely untameable by strict religious discipline, especially monkish meekness

2017-04-11 16:18:51 UTC

in Serbia, there are much more religious zealots

2017-04-11 16:19:09 UTC

do you feel a connection to Serbia

2017-04-11 16:19:14 UTC

Yes

2017-04-11 16:19:31 UTC

Serbs have strong regional differences

2017-04-11 16:20:01 UTC

Montenegrins by far stand out as being the most distinct, and by that I mean even those who declare as Serbs

2017-04-11 16:20:43 UTC

Is an ethnically Serbian Montenegrin that doesn't speak Serbian a phenomenon?

2017-04-11 16:20:48 UTC

a rarity? a nonentity?

2017-04-11 16:21:02 UTC

No, such thing does not exist

2017-04-11 16:22:48 UTC

by eastern mysticism I mean an influx of sentimental, passive ideas in their worldview, racially unconscious, anti-elitist

2017-04-11 16:23:00 UTC

All of Christianty is such

2017-04-11 16:23:37 UTC

But these ideas also propagate certain sense of anti-westernism which rejects both that which is obviously degenerate about west (liberalism, individualism, materialism)

2017-04-11 16:23:59 UTC

and that which is superior (elitism)

2017-04-11 16:24:20 UTC

suburban morality

2017-04-11 16:26:02 UTC

Orthodoxy is in general, even with this eastern mysticism included, better than Catholicism, with it's rastafarian current form

2017-04-11 16:26:11 UTC

But that only speaks about Catholicism

2017-04-11 16:27:03 UTC

It doesn't say why should one find a method of spiritual realization within Orthodoxy, which are scarce, and only include devoting oneself to a life of a monk

2017-04-11 16:29:46 UTC

what is spiritual realization

2017-04-11 16:30:00 UTC

to you

2017-04-11 16:32:01 UTC

realizing higher levels of consciousness, which stand as superior to that which is in the mental sphere purely transitory

2017-04-11 16:33:15 UTC

skipping the inferior, compensatory modes of spiritual life and attempting to achieve something that is in accordance with a higher, permanent and rock solid truth

2017-04-11 16:33:39 UTC

which is, needless to say, completely unrelated to any human existential anxieties

2017-04-11 16:34:10 UTC

or forms conditioned solely upon human bodily perception

2017-04-11 16:34:57 UTC

what kind of higher, permanent, rock solid truth are we talking about here

2017-04-11 16:35:15 UTC

just to be clear

2017-04-11 16:35:17 UTC

You ask more questions than you talk yourself

2017-04-11 16:35:23 UTC

ask me something

2017-04-11 16:35:26 UTC

People who want answers and don't have much to say themselves are rare

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