Message from @fallot

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2017-04-11 16:15:07 UTC  

if you openly don't do it

2017-04-11 16:15:15 UTC  

what would be the reaction of most people

2017-04-11 16:15:19 UTC  

but that practice is completely unfounded in church practice

2017-04-11 16:15:24 UTC  

they wouldn't care

2017-04-11 16:15:54 UTC  

thanks

2017-04-11 16:16:33 UTC  

I very quickly distanced myself from Serbian approach to Orthodoxy due to a huge influx of subversive ideas and personalities

2017-04-11 16:16:46 UTC  

Though at times, it is the only bullwark against reccurence of bolshevik ideas

2017-04-11 16:17:10 UTC  

All Churchiness is prone to attracting obscure people with no qualities who use it to get a platform to educate others

2017-04-11 16:17:37 UTC  

Also, among certain Orthodox believers are many adherents of this Eastern styled mysticism which I dislike

2017-04-11 16:17:55 UTC  

what do you mean Eastern styled

2017-04-11 16:17:59 UTC  

Montenegrins in general have a very peculiar approach towards religion

2017-04-11 16:18:15 UTC  

oh, it's not Montenegros

2017-04-11 16:18:18 UTC  

boo

2017-04-11 16:18:34 UTC  

They are at soul secular and completely untameable by strict religious discipline, especially monkish meekness

2017-04-11 16:18:51 UTC  

in Serbia, there are much more religious zealots

2017-04-11 16:19:09 UTC  

do you feel a connection to Serbia

2017-04-11 16:19:14 UTC  

Yes

2017-04-11 16:19:31 UTC  

Serbs have strong regional differences

2017-04-11 16:20:01 UTC  

Montenegrins by far stand out as being the most distinct, and by that I mean even those who declare as Serbs

2017-04-11 16:20:43 UTC  

Is an ethnically Serbian Montenegrin that doesn't speak Serbian a phenomenon?

2017-04-11 16:20:48 UTC  

a rarity? a nonentity?

2017-04-11 16:21:02 UTC  

No, such thing does not exist

2017-04-11 16:22:48 UTC  

by eastern mysticism I mean an influx of sentimental, passive ideas in their worldview, racially unconscious, anti-elitist

2017-04-11 16:23:00 UTC  

All of Christianty is such

2017-04-11 16:23:37 UTC  

But these ideas also propagate certain sense of anti-westernism which rejects both that which is obviously degenerate about west (liberalism, individualism, materialism)

2017-04-11 16:23:59 UTC  

and that which is superior (elitism)

2017-04-11 16:24:20 UTC  

suburban morality

2017-04-11 16:26:02 UTC  

Orthodoxy is in general, even with this eastern mysticism included, better than Catholicism, with it's rastafarian current form

2017-04-11 16:26:11 UTC  

But that only speaks about Catholicism

2017-04-11 16:27:03 UTC  

It doesn't say why should one find a method of spiritual realization within Orthodoxy, which are scarce, and only include devoting oneself to a life of a monk

2017-04-11 16:29:46 UTC  

what is spiritual realization

2017-04-11 16:30:00 UTC  

to you

2017-04-11 16:32:01 UTC  

realizing higher levels of consciousness, which stand as superior to that which is in the mental sphere purely transitory

2017-04-11 16:33:15 UTC  

skipping the inferior, compensatory modes of spiritual life and attempting to achieve something that is in accordance with a higher, permanent and rock solid truth

2017-04-11 16:33:39 UTC  

which is, needless to say, completely unrelated to any human existential anxieties

2017-04-11 16:34:10 UTC  

or forms conditioned solely upon human bodily perception

2017-04-11 16:34:57 UTC  

what kind of higher, permanent, rock solid truth are we talking about here

2017-04-11 16:35:15 UTC  

just to be clear

2017-04-11 16:35:17 UTC  

You ask more questions than you talk yourself

2017-04-11 16:35:23 UTC  

ask me something

2017-04-11 16:35:26 UTC  

People who want answers and don't have much to say themselves are rare