Message from @fallot

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2017-04-11 16:14:01 UTC  

if someone even makes the intention to fast but doesn't do a single day

2017-04-11 16:14:05 UTC  

I'm inclined to ask you to consider that too

2017-04-11 16:14:08 UTC  

but may not be reasonable

2017-04-11 16:14:20 UTC  

10% of adults?

2017-04-11 16:14:23 UTC  

the rule is no meat or dairy, more strict rules which monks adhere to include no oil on certain days, and no meat whatsoever on certain days, including fish

2017-04-11 16:14:38 UTC  

90% of people skipping meat for a day?

2017-04-11 16:14:56 UTC  

mostof people will do the so called "small fast" of fasting for only 1 single day

2017-04-11 16:15:01 UTC  

christmass eve and good firday

2017-04-11 16:15:07 UTC  

if you openly don't do it

2017-04-11 16:15:15 UTC  

what would be the reaction of most people

2017-04-11 16:15:19 UTC  

but that practice is completely unfounded in church practice

2017-04-11 16:15:24 UTC  

they wouldn't care

2017-04-11 16:15:54 UTC  

thanks

2017-04-11 16:16:33 UTC  

I very quickly distanced myself from Serbian approach to Orthodoxy due to a huge influx of subversive ideas and personalities

2017-04-11 16:16:46 UTC  

Though at times, it is the only bullwark against reccurence of bolshevik ideas

2017-04-11 16:17:10 UTC  

All Churchiness is prone to attracting obscure people with no qualities who use it to get a platform to educate others

2017-04-11 16:17:37 UTC  

Also, among certain Orthodox believers are many adherents of this Eastern styled mysticism which I dislike

2017-04-11 16:17:55 UTC  

what do you mean Eastern styled

2017-04-11 16:17:59 UTC  

Montenegrins in general have a very peculiar approach towards religion

2017-04-11 16:18:15 UTC  

oh, it's not Montenegros

2017-04-11 16:18:18 UTC  

boo

2017-04-11 16:18:34 UTC  

They are at soul secular and completely untameable by strict religious discipline, especially monkish meekness

2017-04-11 16:18:51 UTC  

in Serbia, there are much more religious zealots

2017-04-11 16:19:09 UTC  

do you feel a connection to Serbia

2017-04-11 16:19:14 UTC  

Yes

2017-04-11 16:19:31 UTC  

Serbs have strong regional differences

2017-04-11 16:20:01 UTC  

Montenegrins by far stand out as being the most distinct, and by that I mean even those who declare as Serbs

2017-04-11 16:20:43 UTC  

Is an ethnically Serbian Montenegrin that doesn't speak Serbian a phenomenon?

2017-04-11 16:20:48 UTC  

a rarity? a nonentity?

2017-04-11 16:21:02 UTC  

No, such thing does not exist

2017-04-11 16:22:48 UTC  

by eastern mysticism I mean an influx of sentimental, passive ideas in their worldview, racially unconscious, anti-elitist

2017-04-11 16:23:00 UTC  

All of Christianty is such

2017-04-11 16:23:37 UTC  

But these ideas also propagate certain sense of anti-westernism which rejects both that which is obviously degenerate about west (liberalism, individualism, materialism)

2017-04-11 16:23:59 UTC  

and that which is superior (elitism)

2017-04-11 16:24:20 UTC  

suburban morality

2017-04-11 16:26:02 UTC  

Orthodoxy is in general, even with this eastern mysticism included, better than Catholicism, with it's rastafarian current form

2017-04-11 16:26:11 UTC  

But that only speaks about Catholicism

2017-04-11 16:27:03 UTC  

It doesn't say why should one find a method of spiritual realization within Orthodoxy, which are scarce, and only include devoting oneself to a life of a monk

2017-04-11 16:29:46 UTC  

what is spiritual realization

2017-04-11 16:30:00 UTC  

to you

2017-04-11 16:32:01 UTC  

realizing higher levels of consciousness, which stand as superior to that which is in the mental sphere purely transitory