nat socs are leftists

collectivism is a left wing concept

MUSOLLINI WAS A SOCIALIST LIKE 30 YEARS BEFORE HE INVENTED FASCISM

individualism is a right wing concept

Mussolini was a communist

No characterstic of right-wing politics lines up with fascism

mussolini was kicked from the communist party because he wanted a war and they didn't because they were pansies

@trent your mod services are needed, goy.

hello

there's no economic left and right, dude

I don't think people understand

@trent please cuck @The Chad Sonnenrad and @whytho

left = collectivist and right = individualist

economic yes and economic oh shit we're starving

https://strawpoll.com/a3bre3fh

Weve reached levels of woke beyond possible @The Chad Sonnenrad

They're both apparently raging leftists

so

Oh god is someone saying fascism is left wing

THE BOOMERS HAVE AWAKENED

That these individualist principles have no value

@Cords4me but fascists *are* national socialists

they need <@&350743889667424256>

In a socialist society

whytho is just mad cause no fashy gf

That's exactly what fascism is

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Because you have no expreession

>fascists *are* national socialist

hahahaha holy shit

NO NATIONAL SOCIALISTS ARE TOTALLY RIGHT WING GO- I MEAN GUY

Socialism opertating upon a national basis

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 Fascism and national socialism are two seperate things autist

National Socialists being right-wing was a lie concocted by the left

@Human Supremacist no they're not

They are

@Fusion true

in order to make communism more appealing to the masses

Im an american i apologize for them

Relative to the rest of the world

Topkek

don't let super geniuses like @whytho trick you -- are in fact all very stupid

fascism is using force to make your group the most important group

Fascism and national socialism are literally the same thing

natsoc is the political bit

Yourself*

Hitler based his party on the italian fascists they are not different

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That's not the definition of Fascism though, @based medicine merchant

fascism is the idea that the state is more important than the individual

Wait it's almost like

Hitler's party

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Had socialisim in the name

Wierd

Must be a typo

Those stupid americans

mussolini started fascism and he used force to make his natsocs the dudes in charge

Let's crack open the old dictionary

Ahem

National socialism was specifically hitlers ideology fascism is an overarching term but more directly refers to mussolini style literally just fucken google it

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

It dosent

Lmao

>forcible suppression of opposition

Do you know how many people died

what I said mate

Fascism and communsim is the difference between national socialism and international socialism, as well as the people being united by nationality in fascism as opposed to being united by enconomic class in communism. Those are basically the *only* main differences

For a false perception of stability

>became a wage cuck goyyy!!

However the key is centralized government

Yes total government pwoer that's how you solve problems

a socialist practice

It was

@🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) y dafuq am i muted?

Otherwise communism and fascism are identical

Yeah, the economy of the USSR really was terrible

The nazi economy was great before the war

The economy of US

communism is more cucked than natsoc because it's globalist

@Mr.Weyland y dafuq am i muted?

THe nazis where state capitalists

your most important export was outdated military tech

Obliterated the production of the axis

Russia lost 20million

not communists they compromised iwht the corporations

Socialism

>not understanding the difference between trotskyism and stalinism

@Kami idk

@Human Supremacist no they weren't, the government still controlled everything

>hey comrades we gotta spread communism throughout europe

ask yourself

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@🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) unmute

Stalinism is a slant of communism that believes there should be socialism in one country

dinald needs to start enforcing the anti communism laws in america
put those plastic FEMA castkets to use

as opposed to Leninist and Trotskyist thought which believe in spreading the revolution throughout the world

I got an invitation to join this server, saying it was "the new CC", I take it it's a spiritual successor and not an official replacement?

No, it's an official replacement.

@🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) nigger

official? holy shit

Yeah, goy

there was a coup, and shit happened

@Fusion lol! holy shit

this is the same thing as cc but without a furry enabler as owner

Read announcements. @acidhammer

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 Thers a difference between companies having to answer to the state and tahem being completly being dismantled, i agree national socialism had aspects of marxism but its still right wing adn fascism in general was capitalistic

@Maddy will do

hell the fascist coup that nearly occured in america was organized by fucking corporations

but how is national socialism right wing

I say this as a fascist

(looks to server list on left) Holy shit, CC is gone! LOL

national fucking socialism

Even in Soviet Russia companies existed, so by that logic communism is right-wing

THE NATIONAll retard

there's no social right and left wing either, that doesn't exist

the natioal part of it

it's a distraction from what matters

Fascism and communism are gay

There was wage disparity In the ussr

Huey long is true god though

praise huey

Because communism never existed

mfw

People are different

"communism never existed"

Society structures itself around that

Can communism ever actually exist?

no

In a book

Communism can’t be realized because it exists on paper

I mean in real-life.

It can exist

HUEY LONG IS MY DAD

With two people

communism can't exist because it's a fiction

Can there ever actually be a communist society?

Communism is fiction

marx forgot this small thing called reality

Nawh that hit him hard

all evidence, 100%, proves that communism is incapable of working within reality as we know it.

communism is very real @Drakus_

You should see some of his quotes

gorillions of people starved under communism how can you say its not real

@Human Supremacist That's not very much an argument. I'm going to quote myself a little here, Nazi Germany represented a de-facto socialism, where the means of production was *technically* 'privately owned' but the state had every say in how it was run and bore the substantive powers of ownership regardless. This being the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936 as a response to the inflation caused by all the governemnt spending necessary for all its programs and subsidies. Furthermore, the government took outright control over what was produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was distrubuted. This constitutes the de-facto socialization of the economic system. The government was still excersising the powers of ownership. And the alleged position of a private owner basically became that of a government pensioner.

That's not capitalism in any way. State capitalism and socialism is literally a difference without distinction

heres a book on top of a gamepad on top of a fidget cube on top of a fidget spinner

what book you ask?

is it art of the deal

@Autistic Dog boyo I thought ye were nordic

ah damn

im american <:pepegun:356316958141972501>

It is now quite plain to me — as the shape of his head and the way his hair grows also testify — that he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses' flight from Egypt (unless his mother or paternal grandmother interbred with a nigger). Now, this blend of Jewishness and Germanness, on the one hand, and basic negroid stock, on the other, must inevitably give rise to a peculiar product. The fellow's importunity is also nigger-like.

- Karl Marx on lasalle

I have a framed picture of lenin which a friend gave me as a joke

Marxism is dated

I laugh at it frequently

Our champion of social justice and equality

It doesn’t translate well in the 21st century

lol

(((lenin)))

american role has ugly normie colors @!𝓐𝓻𝓽𝓲𝓮 𝓟𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓻𝓪𝓰𝓸𝓷

lenin was a funny dude

Karl Marx looks like coked-up Santa Claus

(((I'll just hand power to trotsky when I die)))

The notion that Nazi Germany wasn't socialist, and that they were, instead, somehow, right-wing, is an outright myth and one of the worst cases of flawed historical revisionism I've ever seen

papa stalin says hello

That's an interesting thought

kek

Nazi germany was socialistic yes but fascism isnt

ripperoni

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

fascism and national socialism are different things

thats my argument

@Human Supremacist Dude, fascism *IS* national socialism

one of them is a political system, the other is a political concept

what would have happened if Trotsky had disseminated Lenin's last will and testament to the CPC and showcased that Lenin believed Stalin should not have been his successor?

but they do the same thing

I've already explained this

NO they are not literally just google it

Would Trotsky have come to power? Would someone else?

trotsky would've been killed

fascism was created almost ten years before hitler took power

just like kirov

national socialism was only germany

No, Italy was too

or bukharin

NOt italy, hungary, spain

You're historically retarded

@The Chad Sonnenrad I'm 17

I love these arugments

You could argue that every socialist country employs blind nationalism as a means to indoctrinate the populace.

mussolini created fascism and had his natsoc government

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 Dude you are just uneducated, you make me ashamed to be american

I'm not very new

"LMAO this guy" "You must be new to politics *4"

at least we dont have that many muslims

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 is 17, yet he puts together more comprehensible arguments than Antifags twice his age.

No Muslims are meek

Look at the second caliphate

Great people

@Human Supremacist you don't know I'm uneducated, that's quite frankly not for you to assume

As a fascist i can tell you i do no support socialism in any way shape or form

I know exactly what I'm talking about

YOu are on the differences between nationali socialism and fascism

state the difference

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/28/female-teacher-35-found-guilty-turning-classroom-into-sex-den-with-teen-boys.html

Alos why am i baned from speaking in serious chat

they were formed by the same dude and have been employed together

another pedophile found in the California education system

why aren't I surprised

NIGGERS

The economics of fascism are collectivist, socialist, and redistributionist. All left-wing characteristics, all characteristics of socialism

she's pretty ugly too

FAscism was created my mussolini ten years before hitler took power

yes, mussolini made fascism, which hitler copied but was a bit less commie about it

why are you guys still talking about fascism

Wat

@Scary_Clown tfw pedo teacher is literally first lady of france

They, the national socialists, or fascsists, despised wealth inequality

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pedo lady was also the president

Stop spamming

don't make me ping a mod

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cucked

@Walter <:ModsREE:356316860880388098>

RIP

I watched The Founder last night on Netflix

And the Krauts were cucked enough to give her a fourth term

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*ree

no censorship!!!!!

I should have done some advanced tactics and got myself registered to vote for that

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I got connections

at least afd won big and fdp is alright