Clonemaster™ 6.41 (Discord ID: 249323566363836416), page 1


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2017-09-28 06:49:25 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Hey guys what's up

2017-09-28 06:49:30 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Proud to be a patriot

2017-09-28 06:55:08 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Uh wow

2017-09-28 07:07:51 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood how's that?

2017-09-28 07:08:27 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Corruption is not an inherent part of capitalism

2017-09-28 07:08:53 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood yeah - because of government intervention and intrustion where they ought not be

2017-09-28 07:09:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

And what I just said is apart of how socialism works. Centralized government

2017-09-28 07:09:48 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

that controls everything

2017-09-28 07:10:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

No, it's the opposite of that

2017-09-28 07:11:36 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Money doesn't mean nothing, it's distributed evenly by the government

2017-09-28 07:11:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

In socialism

2017-09-28 07:12:53 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood that doesn't make any sense. Socialism advocates for economic equality, that can only be achieved by means of redistrubtion of wealth - taking from the rich and giving to the poor

2017-09-28 07:13:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Socialism has never failed, it's worked as intended. It fails the people though

2017-09-28 07:13:58 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yes it does, because the money has to come from somewhere, and you eventually run out of it

2017-09-28 07:16:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yeah but there'e never been any sort of abundance of food in any socialist society

2017-09-28 07:18:15 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Young socialist, you've been kind of dodging my points here

2017-09-28 07:18:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I don't know, for almost every thing I mentioned you went onto something else

2017-09-28 07:19:45 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Look, private property has been the fundamental aspect of any society that's ever been economically and financially successful. Socialism does away with private property rights

2017-09-28 07:20:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Nobody keeps what they earn

2017-09-28 07:20:21 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yeah, because that's socialism

2017-09-28 07:21:48 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood yeah? Well they're doing it wrong. Under capitalism poverty has decreased itself gradually

2017-09-28 07:23:13 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Autistic Dog *"thats funny because even under communism people were desperate for private property and earning money"*

that's because because communism is international socialism

2017-09-28 07:23:43 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

2017-09-28 07:25:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

To be clear, fascism is national socialism, where the people are bounded by nationality, as opposed to communism, where the people are instead united by enconomic class

2017-09-28 07:26:09 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

...and not a whole lot of people actually know this. They think because Hitler invaded Russia they must be opposite ideologically but it was just the competition for power

2017-09-28 07:26:23 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Fusion true, on both of those points

2017-09-28 07:27:04 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yep

2017-09-28 07:28:22 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Socialism - any form - also necessiates totalitarianism, so that the individual exists as a means to the ends of the state, always in the name of the common good. Collectivism and big government is prioritized over individualism and limited government

2017-09-28 07:30:08 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

It's what must be done in order for the government's centralized planning to be upheld. It's essential.

2017-09-28 07:30:45 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

And some countries espouse socialsim but aren't willing to do what's necessary to enact it wholly.

2017-09-28 07:30:52 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

So they're not really socialist

2017-09-28 07:31:01 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

At least, the economy isn't

2017-09-28 07:37:00 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@// mainly state/government ownership of the means of production, centralized economic planning, and the redistribution of wealth by the state. And state-funded education, universal healthcare and/or welfare, guaranteed emplyoment, and since the state, by these means assumes ultimate responsibility for the well-being of the individual, every aspect of life is penetrated in order for it to happen that way. Since the state is providing you everything you need to live, the people are dependant upon the state for every aspect of their well being and this is all the leverage they need for total control over the people. This is where the totalitarian regime comes in. This is how nearly *every* socialist society has gone about.

2017-09-28 07:38:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Big government is always involved

2017-09-28 07:39:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

The people or citizens never really own everything as a community. It's always, *always* been the state representatives. This is how it always turns out, it doesn't work for them any other way. Because I don't know how to run a fucking business - that's why private ownership of businesses are important

2017-09-28 07:41:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

........I mean seriously, how the fuck does *a n y o n e* advocate for socialism when it's always turned out this way???

2017-09-28 07:41:27 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Exactly

2017-09-28 07:41:43 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

It doesn't matter how you spin it

2017-09-28 07:41:56 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Democratic socialsim is still national socialsim and is thus fascism

2017-09-28 07:42:20 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

But since so many people don't really know what the hell they're talking about they'd freak out if I said that

2017-09-28 07:42:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Because fascism has such an automatic negative association - as it should

2017-09-28 07:42:58 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

And as should socislism

2017-09-28 07:43:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood it is reality. Look at history. Don't repeat the same mistakes

2017-09-28 07:44:23 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

This is why they've tried to place fascism upon the right of the political spectrum, and why they've tried to say that the Nazis weren't socialist, because if everyone knew the truth, nobody would want socialsim

2017-09-28 07:45:04 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

sorry, guys, I'm just unloading in the chat here

2017-09-28 07:45:38 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

It had capitalism in name only

2017-09-28 07:47:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood The means of production was technically privately-owned, but this was only by a superficial level, as the state had every say in how it was run and bore the substantive powers of ownership regardless. This being the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936 as a response to the inflation caused by all the governemnt spending necessary for all its programs and subsidies. And *furthermore*, the government took outright control over what was produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was distrubuted. This constitutes the de-facto socialization of the economic system. The government was still excersising the powers of ownership. And the alleged position of a private owner basically became that of a government pensioner.

2017-09-28 07:48:15 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood it's what you call de-facto socialism

2017-09-28 07:49:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

See, I just explained how the Nazis not being socialist because of 'state-run capitalism' is a myth because the government *still* fucking had control over everything

2017-09-28 07:55:41 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood well, you didn't retort my explaination about Nazi Germany's de-facto socialism either 😉

2017-09-28 07:56:03 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Because you can't refute the truth

2017-09-28 07:56:20 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

That doesn't make any sense

2017-09-28 07:56:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

the other way around

2017-09-28 07:56:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

You literally switched the definitions

2017-09-28 07:57:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Far-right is anarchy, that was the complete opposite of what Nazi Germany was

2017-09-28 07:57:57 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood how does that 'un-checked' power affect you personally though?

2017-09-28 07:58:07 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

How does it oppress you?

2017-09-28 07:58:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood because it's crony-capitalism

2017-09-28 08:00:03 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm sorry, but coporations being greedy doesn't oppress anybody in any way. The point of a business is to *profit*

2017-09-28 08:03:09 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood and it's the responsiblity of the government to *not accept* those bribes. That's why limited government is important

2017-09-28 08:04:12 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood again, that's how government is a necessary evil. That's why it *must be limited*

2017-09-28 08:04:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

*that is republicanism*

2017-09-28 08:08:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood well the the government handles the perogatives that the constitution delegates to the government, so it's only the government's responsibility to protect the rights of coporations just as any citizen's rights are protected. It's not the government's job to regulate them

2017-09-28 08:11:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Blood the government simply has no role in anything to which it's not afforded by the constitution. That's the way the government is structured.

2017-09-28 08:17:05 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Term limits must be enacted. Drain the fucking swamp

2017-09-28 08:25:45 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Again, the workers *never* own the means or production or the productive assests. It's never worked out this way, and it never can. Because the workers are not supposed to be the ones managing a business like that

2017-09-28 08:27:55 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  
2017-09-28 08:28:01 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Woah

2017-09-28 08:32:51 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Thanks @Extra Crispy for explaining all of this in more depth

2017-09-28 08:36:06 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

This always comes down to the socialists seeing that the government is the better means or way for them to have thse goods distributed, and that's why it's always turned out that way

2017-09-28 08:37:08 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Because it's quite obvious that there's no guarantee the workers are going to be efficient, able and 'equal' in undertaking it.

2017-09-28 08:43:14 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

To be clear, don't go on thinking that Marco Rubio is any sort of legitimate republican, because he is absolutely not

2017-09-28 09:20:28 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Not by Discord, that's for certain

2017-09-28 16:37:44 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

'Liberal' as in leftist

2017-09-28 16:38:05 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@whytho it does now

2017-09-28 16:38:22 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

The meaning of liberalism has been infiltrated and fucked

2017-09-28 16:38:27 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Since the 1930s

2017-09-28 16:39:50 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Leftists operated under the guise of 'liberalism' to make what they're doing seem appealing, when in reality it reflected the exact opposite of what liberty and liberalism means

2017-09-28 16:40:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

So, of course liberalism isn't fucking leftism, but the meaning has changed, gradually since the 30s and especially since the 60s

2017-09-28 16:41:17 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Fascism is not right-wing

2017-09-28 16:41:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

No characterstic of right-wing politics lines up with fascism

2017-09-28 16:42:55 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Cords4me but fascists *are* national socialists

2017-09-28 16:43:04 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

That's exactly what fascism is

2017-09-28 16:43:23 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Socialism opertating upon a national basis

2017-09-28 16:43:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Human Supremacist no they're not

2017-09-28 16:43:41 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Fusion true

2017-09-28 16:44:04 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Fascism and national socialism are literally the same thing

2017-09-28 16:45:16 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Fascism and communsim is the difference between national socialism and international socialism, as well as the people being united by nationality in fascism as opposed to being united by enconomic class in communism. Those are basically the *only* main differences

2017-09-28 16:45:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Otherwise communism and fascism are identical

2017-09-28 16:46:16 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Human Supremacist no they weren't, the government still controlled everything

2017-09-28 16:49:53 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Human Supremacist That's not very much an argument. I'm going to quote myself a little here, Nazi Germany represented a de-facto socialism, where the means of production was *technically* 'privately owned' but the state had every say in how it was run and bore the substantive powers of ownership regardless. This being the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936 as a response to the inflation caused by all the governemnt spending necessary for all its programs and subsidies. Furthermore, the government took outright control over what was produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was distrubuted. This constitutes the de-facto socialization of the economic system. The government was still excersising the powers of ownership. And the alleged position of a private owner basically became that of a government pensioner.

That's not capitalism in any way. State capitalism and socialism is literally a difference without distinction

2017-09-28 16:51:33 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

The notion that Nazi Germany wasn't socialist, and that they were, instead, somehow, right-wing, is an outright myth and one of the worst cases of flawed historical revisionism I've ever seen

2017-09-28 16:52:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Human Supremacist Dude, fascism *IS* national socialism

2017-09-28 16:52:24 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I've already explained this

2017-09-28 16:53:07 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

No, Italy was too

2017-09-28 16:53:22 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

You're historically retarded

2017-09-28 16:53:44 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm not very new

2017-09-28 16:54:23 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Human Supremacist you don't know I'm uneducated, that's quite frankly not for you to assume

2017-09-28 16:54:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I know exactly what I'm talking about

2017-09-28 16:55:44 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

The economics of fascism are collectivist, socialist, and redistributionist. All left-wing characteristics, all characteristics of socialism

2017-09-28 16:56:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

They, the national socialists, or fascsists, despised wealth inequality

2017-09-28 16:56:47 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Stop spamming

2017-09-28 16:59:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

<:OKTrump:356316632567513088>

2017-09-28 17:08:04 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yeah, I dislike spamming. It's obstructs the discussion

2017-09-28 20:09:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Lol, Obama was totally a socialist, his actions displayed the correlation to a socialist state

2017-09-28 20:12:13 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@whytho um I don't know, gun control, government-run healthcare, welfare? Just a couple of examples

2017-09-28 20:14:18 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Mjold Böns uh I'm talking about the welfare state

2017-09-28 20:27:50 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yeah, I don't understand why *so many* people will always resort to ad hominen attacks... instead of attacking the core issue

2017-09-28 20:29:00 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@whytho are you talking to me?

2017-09-28 23:26:36 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Damn, Rick Astley is in the chat

2017-09-28 23:27:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

<@!316932805668110336> dedication

2017-09-28 23:30:20 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Nice

2017-09-28 23:30:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

BILL CLINTON IS A RAPIST Infowars.com

2017-09-28 23:31:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Gayeeee

2017-09-28 23:31:56 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

LOL

2017-09-28 23:32:15 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

<@!316932805668110336> yep

2017-09-28 23:33:01 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm no fag I'm straight <:OKTrump:356316632567513088>

2017-09-28 23:33:34 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Juan Rico hell no lol

2017-09-28 23:36:31 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

"Get the fuck outta here"

2017-09-28 23:37:00 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

haha yes^^^

2017-09-28 23:50:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

LOL

2017-09-28 23:52:14 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Haha that is a classic vgm

2017-09-29 04:36:41 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@xX NegroSaki Samurai Xx that's great, I support it

2017-09-29 04:43:06 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Lol I'm an ISFJ

2017-09-29 04:43:33 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

<:ThinkMyself:362976014730657792>

2017-09-29 04:45:48 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Jolly_Lad ya it was a scum move

2017-09-29 05:51:26 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Oh yeah, back when he was more like a real scientist

2017-09-29 06:29:36 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Oh man, ded chat? <:SAD:356316923085979648>

2017-09-29 06:47:29 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

As long as you have good reasons for it, it's not a bad thing

2017-09-29 06:54:24 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm afraid communism is just too simply ignorant of human nature and cancerous in general to just 'look past it'

2017-09-29 07:00:17 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Myth exactly what I meant

2017-09-29 07:01:07 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Hitler was actually a vegetarian

2017-09-29 07:01:15 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Not a vegan

2017-09-29 07:01:24 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

LOL

2017-09-29 07:01:57 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

he'd have been a commie if he believed in international socialism

2017-09-29 07:02:47 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yeah she's definitely not hot to me, like, lmfao

2017-09-29 07:15:53 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

LMAO

Fools many people

seems very much like it

How's that?

🤔

It was

'streaks'

RIGHT NOW

STOP IT

RIGHT NOW

~~Right now?~~ - YES, RIGHT NOW

2017-10-01 08:19:57 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Hey guys, what's with all the <:Ban:356316530859966475>

2017-10-01 08:20:48 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

<:SAD:356316923085979648>

2017-10-01 08:21:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

<:HyperThinking:356316737588690944>

I'll get in vc when I'm damn good and ready

2017-10-01 20:41:41 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Some British guy from the pub would WIN

2017-10-01 20:42:11 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Farage is based af

2017-10-09 20:22:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

The last icon was x1,000,000,000 better

2017-10-09 20:24:05 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

The previous icon was patriotic

2017-10-09 20:25:13 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@Scary_Clown dude it's all greyed out though like wtf

2017-10-09 20:25:22 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@king now THAT is the shit

2017-10-09 20:26:33 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

^^lmao

2017-10-09 20:26:48 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@amygdala wereeee

2017-10-09 20:28:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Where even is the voting poll @StevePines -WA

2017-10-09 20:29:31 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

SHOW ME THE POLL AND I'LL VOTE FOR THE OLD LOGO

2017-10-09 20:29:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

^^LMAO

2017-10-09 20:30:10 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Red Dead Redemption 2 looks sick

2017-10-09 20:30:28 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Old logo is WINNING

Iowa

Based

based

<:ratdog:549062185368682497>

High traffic

I already have Minecraft

Tbh

Someone made fun of me for being Christian and centrist the other night

It was pretty bad

Lmao

Uhhh

What is a bender again

Uhhh

<:ratdog:549062185368682497>

All these British terms

Oh ok

Top tier https://apple.news/A9B6Z-QemR9e7nNjx74c9qQ

Slid

Just fuck my shit up fam

@Bröther GRITS ok wow not true

I am not insecure of my sexuality

!

no

I love pink

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@Clonemaster™ 6.41

why would you ping someone like this regularly

Fucking shitlord lol

Honestly ridiculous lol

@Deleted User damn.....

Well his characters were weird so nobody could get to it at first lol

Damn mfw haven’t eaten for a little over 12 hours

@Probably Tim lmao yes it does

Like I’m not even doing this on purpose lmao it’s just pretty easy sometimes, not that I haven’t been hungry

Bro

Golden eagle is not here

<:ratdog:549062185368682497>

Jaylo settle down

yeah he was almost exclusively in vc lol, if you mean the first iteration of his server

lmao

oh i mean he was

he didn't seem to do anything else but vc modding and I'm not even sure how much moderation he did with that

@Capra very disrespectful

Sad!

Hey guys stop spamming that gif thanks

Anyway

Wow

Oh I have to fix my name here again

@Zebra 3 noticed what

oh

I was 6.41 at first and then made my way up to 7.45 in the first friends server I was in and then I was 8.45 and now 9.45

just for the look tbh

ok why are images not showing up on my end

fucking gay

discord be like: "LOADING LOADING LOADING"

The internet on my computer is shit or something

> This server is just a shitposting server

If you want to treat it that way lol

@Deepfry well I did say my computer so

Yeah

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Damn imagine spamming the same gif over and over again lol

Must be VERY bored

Yes

eugh i think my computer's internet is working again

HELLO

HI HELLO

imagine not permanently keeping wicked at S class

oh ok good

imagine not putting me in [REDACTED] class

nice enough

American woman

stay away from meeee

lol

wow

very nice

did not know that

yeah

he left a few places

more personal stuff I think

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