God is still God. He is, for the lack of a better term, our father.

Thats the whole ppint I was trting to make though. Asking who your fathers father is is retarded.

Same thing with the can god make a rock he cant move thing.

Of course he can. In the same way we can make a file we cant move or delete.

It doesnt mean God isnt all powerful. It means that he is so powerful that the power can be kept in check conciously.

pagans are athiests, change my mind

satanists are edgy atheists

Dont you have to believe in god to worship satan?

yes, but a lot of satanists are just edgy roleplayers

who

use satanism as some sort of edgy prop up for what they consider is (((logic))) or some retardation

i have a hard time taking anything self-proclaimed satanists (whether they truly worship Satan or not) seriously

Edgy af

gang gang gang

That’s one thing I always love about Atheists

They’ll go after Christians and be like “Your book condones murder and mysoginy!” “Where is your god to stop all tragedies?” “Lol you worship a Flying Spaghetti Monster”
Then for Islam are like “Oh wow! Such a beautiful culture and set of beliefs” “Such pioneers for equality!” “Allah is such a divine being”

Those arent athiest those are sjw

Not necessarily exclusive to one another, but unfortunately there is an overlap.

*muh Jesus*

*muh inivisible non-existant god*

*the Arc and Moses were real, y'all*

_muh sky daddy_

*beam me up, god, so I can get down on my knees and start pleasing you*

Who ever said God was in the sky? Kek

SJWs are also Atheists.

But, in either case, I still get pretty annoyed when Atheists ask "well, who created God?"

I then proceed to explain why the question is arbitrary and pointless by pointing out that it's kind of stupid to invalidate your Father's contributions to creating you by saying "yeah, well, what about your grandfather, huh? Shouldn't *he* be more important than your father in creating you?"

It's a deflection from the main argument and a pointless argument because it doesn't make God's achievements any less impressive and important to us. In essence, God is our father and, if God happens to have a father of his own, it fundamentally does not diminish the fact that God literally created the entire universe and, in turn, us.

Thing is

God was created by man

Like Jupiter, Neptune, and the fucking Yeti

And how do you know God was created by man?

Who wrote the Bible?

*Searches frantically for fedora

God was created by man because there is too much overlap in too many stories for it to be the most reliable telling.

The church had a habit of co opting pagan culture and packaging it all into one easy to worship religion. There is probably truth in it when it was created but what we have now is almost entirely fictitious.

you can believe in God and not be Christian

God is not a concept you can easily discard just because muh religion is evil or corrupt or doesnt make sense to me 😦

there is very good reason for why so many people still believe in God in some capacity, whether it be through a religion such as Christianity, judaism, through Deism, or other movements and ideologies

And why does it matter who wrote the Bible when it comes to explaining how an entity beyond our scope of understanding was created by humanity?

da bible was written by hoominz so dat mean God isnt real haha chekkmayt kristunz! !!

Not worth the crusade to punish such degemeracy. It'll destroy itself.

Just explaining why people say that. To me a lot of religion means well and teaches food stuff (not islam) but there cant possible be subtance behind them. God in any book is likely fake. But they could be based on a true one or there could still be an actual god somewhere.

@Ehzek read Summa Theologica.

"Too many religions have overlapping stories."

Somehow this doesn't suggest that they might have happened, but that they definitely didn't.

Out of all the arguments I never understood this particular one.

Well. If a hundred people of different cultures say the same thing, could it probably have happened?

Like the Jews doing 9/11?

And blaming it on Muslims so that Israel can occupy Gaza?

Here we go again

Everything is the Jews' fault, Muslims did nothing wrong

Just another fucking teenager who thought Nazi uniforms look cool

The only things Christianity co-opted from paganism were some holidays. Some argue that the imagery of Satan was taken from pagans too. If that’s true, it just means that the horned red guy is the wrong image. Not that Satan came from pagans.

Overlapping stories is what historians use to confirm an event actually happened. Not sure why one would suddenly disregard that concept when it comes to the accuracy of the Bible.

Satan being a red skinned horned imp that resides in hell is the wrong image. The bible never describes him as such. It was artistic design.

And as for the holidays they have lost all religious meaning and have become cultural festivities.

The horned imp is based off a nature god called ban I think

Holidays aren't necessarily copied, just overlapping. If you combine every pagan religion, then the majority of the calendar is holidays

It's inevitable that we will overlap

All these new age "enlightened" atheists say we just copied holidays in an attempt to discredit Christianity

Because it doesn't allow them to fuck each other in the ass

I had one of those calendars before. There is quite literally a holiday every week.

Christmas really was Dec 25, Biblical chronology adds up to a nine month pregnancy, and shepherds are still outdoors in Israel in December

Whether you believe he was the son of God or the son of a Roman soldier, is irrelevant to his birthday

Sorry I should have clarified. What I meant by “copied” holidays is that some of the practices have pagan origins. Like the Christmas tree, Easter eggs, etc. I’m used to getting arguments started on Facebook, so that’s usually good enough.

There's an explanation for the tree

Saint Boniface

If a bunch of people say the same thing tbere is probable truth in it, how would it support a lie? Its different from the jews doing 911 thing as these sources are reputable and not started by an internet rumor. For instance Jesus is around in Islamic writings. While it isnt definite proof its corroborating evidence that backs up his exiatance in a competing faith.

Also the Jews do everything shit is retarded.

It requires that most governments turn a blind eye or be completely oblivious to their shenanigns. And continue to allow solely for jew benefit.

But somehow internet edgelords know the truth? Not likely.

If Jews did 911 its because someone in America let them do it and helped it along. Jews have influence but it isnt a free check to play God at will.

My God

There's someone else that thinks the same as me

Idk I try to be completely fair about it.

Im sure Jesus is based somehow in reality

That there is no historical writings on him is somewhat irrelevant as everything with him in it is treated as religious text.

Relegion is heavily based in history and while the fiction is in religious text it shouldnt be disregarded entirely on that fact alone

I might get around to reading summa theologica

But that shits too long for me to just read on a whim

Well that and the fact that Jerusalem was sacked in 60 A.D., meaning that any records of his existence would have been lost during the Jewish revolt. However, thanks to Josephus and Tacitus, we know that Christianity was a thing as early as 80-90 A.D..

There's a handful of writings. Josephus and Tacitus mentioned him briefly

Not in any detail

Summa is really long but it's a good insight into Catholicism and Christianity in general, viewed through a kind of Greek logic perspective

It's something a lot of social justice Catholics would prefer to ignore. It destroys the whole tolerance, ecumenism, etc thing and also gives strong arguments in favor of capital punishment

Aren’t there Roman writings attributing problems with the Jews to Jesus?

I remember reading or watching something that mentioned Rome having to deal with Jews that were causing trouble because of Jesus.

Jesus was very much so a real man lol
idk why anyone still thinks that is up to debate

Yeah I fully believe that Jesus was a real man that existed.

I believe in the man not so much the acts he performed

The real reason people refuse to believe or find any reason not to is quite simply because the person wants to live their life the way they want to and not be told what they do is wrong. Because most of them have the attitude that, "If it makes you happy it is good for you." Which is a dumb argument because it promotes Moral relativism and Humanism because that means it is OK so long as it makes someone happy.

At the end of the day, nonbelievers really just don't care and take comfort in their vanity. They are content to just live in the mundanity of their own lives and serve only themselves.

generally

And so when you have a person that is fine with mundanity of life and is perfectly happy with their vanity they have no care to serve a higher calling. And when their vanity is attacked in form of them being told they need to quit and serve a higher power, they get triggered and become poised to destroy their assailants or come up arguments that complement what they want to perceive and lock themselves in their own dogmas.

Which proves the point that people are very shallow.