Message from @The Eternal Leaf

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2018-06-08 19:36:02 UTC  

But, in either case, I still get pretty annoyed when Atheists ask "well, who created God?"

I then proceed to explain why the question is arbitrary and pointless by pointing out that it's kind of stupid to invalidate your Father's contributions to creating you by saying "yeah, well, what about your grandfather, huh? Shouldn't *he* be more important than your father in creating you?"

2018-06-08 19:37:32 UTC  

It's a deflection from the main argument and a pointless argument because it doesn't make God's achievements any less impressive and important to us. In essence, God is our father and, if God happens to have a father of his own, it fundamentally does not diminish the fact that God literally created the entire universe and, in turn, us.

2018-06-08 20:22:34 UTC  

Thing is

2018-06-08 20:22:39 UTC  

God was created by man

2018-06-08 20:22:55 UTC  

Like Jupiter, Neptune, and the fucking Yeti

2018-06-08 20:25:40 UTC  

And how do you know God was created by man?

2018-06-08 21:59:26 UTC  

Who wrote the Bible?

2018-06-08 23:30:06 UTC  

*Searches frantically for fedora

2018-06-09 06:08:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/454889469846224897/tumblr_okm3vryfpe1r94kvzo2_r1_1280.jpg

2018-06-09 06:54:01 UTC  

God was created by man because there is too much overlap in too many stories for it to be the most reliable telling.

2018-06-09 06:58:00 UTC  

The church had a habit of co opting pagan culture and packaging it all into one easy to worship religion. There is probably truth in it when it was created but what we have now is almost entirely fictitious.

2018-06-09 10:09:22 UTC  

you can believe in God and not be Christian

2018-06-09 10:10:21 UTC  

God is not a concept you can easily discard just because muh religion is evil or corrupt or doesnt make sense to me 😦

2018-06-09 10:11:27 UTC  

there is very good reason for why so many people still believe in God in some capacity, whether it be through a religion such as Christianity, judaism, through Deism, or other movements and ideologies

2018-06-09 10:31:28 UTC  

And why does it matter who wrote the Bible when it comes to explaining how an entity beyond our scope of understanding was created by humanity?

2018-06-09 10:32:15 UTC  

da bible was written by hoominz so dat mean God isnt real haha chekkmayt kristunz! !!

2018-06-09 10:33:23 UTC  

Not worth the crusade to punish such degemeracy. It'll destroy itself.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451601956755210241/454956171380523018/afc.jpg

2018-06-09 10:54:29 UTC  

Just explaining why people say that. To me a lot of religion means well and teaches food stuff (not islam) but there cant possible be subtance behind them. God in any book is likely fake. But they could be based on a true one or there could still be an actual god somewhere.

2018-06-09 15:07:03 UTC  

@Ehzek read Summa Theologica.

2018-06-09 16:19:21 UTC  

"Too many religions have overlapping stories."

2018-06-09 16:19:36 UTC  

Somehow this doesn't suggest that they might have happened, but that they definitely didn't.

2018-06-09 16:19:44 UTC  

Out of all the arguments I never understood this particular one.

2018-06-09 17:03:17 UTC  

Well. If a hundred people of different cultures say the same thing, could it probably have happened?

2018-06-09 17:06:20 UTC  

Like the Jews doing 9/11?

2018-06-09 17:06:47 UTC  

And blaming it on Muslims so that Israel can occupy Gaza?

2018-06-09 17:14:00 UTC  

Here we go again

2018-06-09 17:14:12 UTC  

Everything is the Jews' fault, Muslims did nothing wrong

2018-06-09 17:14:33 UTC  

Just another fucking teenager who thought Nazi uniforms look cool

2018-06-09 17:32:26 UTC  

The only things Christianity co-opted from paganism were some holidays. Some argue that the imagery of Satan was taken from pagans too. If that’s true, it just means that the horned red guy is the wrong image. Not that Satan came from pagans.

2018-06-09 17:33:43 UTC  

Overlapping stories is what historians use to confirm an event actually happened. Not sure why one would suddenly disregard that concept when it comes to the accuracy of the Bible.

2018-06-09 18:03:27 UTC  

Satan being a red skinned horned imp that resides in hell is the wrong image. The bible never describes him as such. It was artistic design.

2018-06-09 18:04:42 UTC  

And as for the holidays they have lost all religious meaning and have become cultural festivities.

2018-06-09 18:09:46 UTC  

The horned imp is based off a nature god called ban I think

2018-06-09 18:51:20 UTC  

Holidays aren't necessarily copied, just overlapping. If you combine every pagan religion, then the majority of the calendar is holidays

2018-06-09 18:51:34 UTC  

It's inevitable that we will overlap

2018-06-09 18:52:09 UTC  

All these new age "enlightened" atheists say we just copied holidays in an attempt to discredit Christianity

2018-06-09 18:52:20 UTC  

Because it doesn't allow them to fuck each other in the ass

2018-06-09 19:22:56 UTC  

I had one of those calendars before. There is quite literally a holiday every week.

2018-06-09 19:27:34 UTC  

Christmas really was Dec 25, Biblical chronology adds up to a nine month pregnancy, and shepherds are still outdoors in Israel in December

2018-06-09 19:27:57 UTC  

Whether you believe he was the son of God or the son of a Roman soldier, is irrelevant to his birthday

2018-06-09 20:13:46 UTC  

Sorry I should have clarified. What I meant by ā€œcopiedā€ holidays is that some of the practices have pagan origins. Like the Christmas tree, Easter eggs, etc. I’m used to getting arguments started on Facebook, so that’s usually good enough.