Message from @cloudasylum
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My God
There's someone else that thinks the same as me
Idk I try to be completely fair about it.
Im sure Jesus is based somehow in reality
That there is no historical writings on him is somewhat irrelevant as everything with him in it is treated as religious text.
Relegion is heavily based in history and while the fiction is in religious text it shouldnt be disregarded entirely on that fact alone
I might get around to reading summa theologica
But that shits too long for me to just read on a whim
Well that and the fact that Jerusalem was sacked in 60 A.D., meaning that any records of his existence would have been lost during the Jewish revolt. However, thanks to Josephus and Tacitus, we know that Christianity was a thing as early as 80-90 A.D..
There's a handful of writings. Josephus and Tacitus mentioned him briefly
Not in any detail
Summa is really long but it's a good insight into Catholicism and Christianity in general, viewed through a kind of Greek logic perspective
It's something a lot of social justice Catholics would prefer to ignore. It destroys the whole tolerance, ecumenism, etc thing and also gives strong arguments in favor of capital punishment
Aren’t there Roman writings attributing problems with the Jews to Jesus?
I remember reading or watching something that mentioned Rome having to deal with Jews that were causing trouble because of Jesus.
Jesus was very much so a real man lol
idk why anyone still thinks that is up to debate
Yeah I fully believe that Jesus was a real man that existed.
I believe in the man not so much the acts he performed
The real reason people refuse to believe or find any reason not to is quite simply because the person wants to live their life the way they want to and not be told what they do is wrong. Because most of them have the attitude that, "If it makes you happy it is good for you." Which is a dumb argument because it promotes Moral relativism and Humanism because that means it is OK so long as it makes someone happy.
At the end of the day, nonbelievers really just don't care and take comfort in their vanity. They are content to just live in the mundanity of their own lives and serve only themselves.
And so when you have a person that is fine with mundanity of life and is perfectly happy with their vanity they have no care to serve a higher calling. And when their vanity is attacked in form of them being told they need to quit and serve a higher power, they get triggered and become poised to destroy their assailants or come up arguments that complement what they want to perceive and lock themselves in their own dogmas.
Which proves the point that people are very shallow.
i would imagine most atheists have a complex with authority deriving from a bad relationship with their parents
Problem with atheists is that they seek to destroy others faith rather then simply adhere to their beliefs
True Atheism is in itself a cult. Because atheism is the belief that there is nothing and thus have a belief of disbelief.
i actually got into an argument with a gay/atheist earlier today about the right for private companies to deny service. he absolutely refused to accept the fact that 1, they clearly can afford to be turned away because they provide little profit to the company, but the main factor being that they are a private company. if it were a chain, that is one thing. but a private company has every right to deny a customer and it doesn't matter the basis
in reference to gay cakes, obviously
muh equal rights!
>Equal rights
Egalitarianism is a lie
Any company can refuse any service for any reason
exactly what i tried to explain. he was a brick wall. and this guy was a friend for at least 7 years
The cake store should have just said no and told them to go elsewhere
The only thing they can't do is descriminate agaisnt employees
and you know these cases are brought by degenerates who just want to cause problems and get frivolous cases for settlements
Probably had tons of people asking for gay cakes just because
These degenerates deserve nothing more than to spend the rest of their days in labor camps.
gather up all the gays, and force them to sky dive into countries that kill gays
they don't realize how great they have it here. like they are still persecuted because they can't have their choice of bakery lol
Omg the discrimination ia real
I cant get my gay wedding cake anywhere I please