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2019-03-29 04:04:10 UTC

ironic that a lot of the people in charge are orthodox in israel now doh

2019-03-29 08:26:12 UTC

@Amadeus I thought the Ultra orthodoxy had the most privileges in Israel, so that video wasn't kinda what I expected ๐Ÿค”

2019-03-29 08:32:11 UTC

that's why i said what i said

2019-03-30 08:48:22 UTC

There are many kinds of Ultra-Orthodox people

2019-03-30 09:43:52 UTC

I think they were exempt from the draft too

2019-04-02 06:25:35 UTC

@Amadeus this is vice doc a propaganda

2019-04-02 06:46:45 UTC

what

2019-04-03 12:27:44 UTC

Happy 70th Birthday to NATO!

2019-04-06 13:57:07 UTC

https://summit.news/2019/04/06/medieval-diseases-making-a-comeback-due-to-feces-on-streets/

2019-04-10 21:10:08 UTC

San Fran literally days away from bubonic plague outbreak

2019-04-10 21:43:06 UTC

Like the curse God placed on Egypt

2019-04-10 21:43:28 UTC

California has to let all the right wingers out. Let my people go.

2019-04-10 21:44:16 UTC

Then they will pursue them and the alt right will annihilate them and dump the Gulf of California on them

2019-04-10 21:44:43 UTC

Finally they will wander in the desert and then settle in Mexico, kill all of the inhabitants, and form their own nation

2019-04-21 00:24:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445636913995579412/569317445882347540/image0.png

2019-04-23 11:27:38 UTC

Also National socialist germany taxed you to death and also killed people with disabilities <:smugpepe:445634631950139403>

2019-04-27 15:19:27 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445636913995579412/571717042202476554/unknown.png

2019-04-27 15:19:33 UTC

these ramadan worshippers are going too far man

2019-04-28 04:08:21 UTC

I know Prager U but facts

2019-04-28 06:12:35 UTC

More like Prager Jew

2019-04-28 06:12:48 UTC

Boomer I know haha

2019-04-28 07:47:27 UTC

literally why atheism is the worst notion man ever conceived. it provides for no moral code, thus it treats man as a means to an end, and by extension dehumanizes them so a few disappearing isn't a big deal to them.

2019-04-28 07:52:04 UTC

why is communism really appealing to people? because if there is no absolute moral standard then it leaves people free to act how they please, regardless of how morally abhorrent it might be. I'm not just talking about the bigger things, I'm talking about stealing not being a big deal, or greed not having an impact on your active conscience, or rather not being burdened by the though that what one is doing is wrong. The irony is that in this totalitarian system (as communism eventually regresses to), the little sins you make end up costing you your livelihood or worse, your life. exactly what happens if you live rejecting god.

2019-04-28 07:52:33 UTC

Communists want free shit basically

2019-04-28 07:52:50 UTC

Stealing it from someone means free to them

2019-04-28 07:53:05 UTC

Jealous because someone else has more instead of being content with their lives

2019-04-28 07:53:29 UTC

Obama actually said it, "the rich means anyone who has more than someone else"

2019-04-28 07:54:22 UTC

it's more than that ragnarok, it boils down to them wanting being free from consequences, either of lifestyle choices, or freedom from that nagging feeling in the back of everyone's head that if you do something wrong your conscience will tell you.

2019-04-28 07:54:50 UTC

it's actually ironic that atheism in this sense, in promising free will, takes it away from you

2019-04-28 07:54:55 UTC

That's why people choose atheism, but not necessarily communism

2019-04-28 07:55:23 UTC

there are no religious communists

2019-04-28 07:55:24 UTC

Atheism is freedom from consequences. You die and you're dead, no God to punish you

2019-04-28 07:55:40 UTC

if you find one, i'll be surprised

2019-04-28 07:55:44 UTC

There are atheists who are not communist

2019-04-28 07:55:52 UTC

That's the group I was referring to

2019-04-28 07:56:49 UTC

In the early days of communism in China the Christians tended to side more with the communists than the nationalists. Of course neither were capitalist, but the KMT tended to be run more by rich bureaucrats

2019-04-28 07:57:48 UTC

Because in the beginning they didn't present themselves as an anti-Christian movement like the Russians did

2019-04-28 07:58:14 UTC

which is another way of saying they didn't actually know better

2019-04-28 07:59:05 UTC

They didn't, they were just desperate

2019-04-28 07:59:32 UTC

A lot of them weren't truly commies, they were just truly hungry

2019-04-28 08:00:44 UTC

But they are a special and abnormal case

2019-04-28 08:00:48 UTC

perhaps. I doubt there were many, if any genuine christians in the communist leadership in china though

2019-04-28 08:00:58 UTC

In leadership definitely not

2019-04-28 08:03:01 UTC

as we know, Christians aren't unique in putting their chips in the right place all the time. We do seem more common though, when it comes to promptly admitting our faults and asking for forgiveness. I'm just ranting about atheism this early because I'm reading some of Lee Strobel's works.

2019-04-28 08:03:39 UTC

Lot of stuff I didn't know before reading them, like far more than I thought I knew

2019-04-28 08:05:09 UTC

the biggest bit was that Science cannot provide a single proof for the origin of life. Microevolution, yes, but not the idea that we all have a common ancestor.

2019-04-28 08:06:10 UTC

Who is he?

2019-04-28 08:06:54 UTC

Lee Strobel is an american author and former atheist who wrote a book examining the proof for Christ as a lawyer would

2019-04-28 08:07:05 UTC

"The case for Christ"

2019-04-28 08:08:26 UTC

he examined almost every facet you could from medical scholars to archeologists to several people with doctorates in New and Old Testament study to come to the conclusion that Jesus is the Unique Son of God.

2019-04-28 08:09:19 UTC

My theory of evolution is that the genetic code for variations was already present in each species created.

2019-04-28 08:09:58 UTC

And the offspring varied like a random roll of dice, with some inheriting some genes, others getting other genes

2019-04-28 08:10:43 UTC

Not quite microevolution. Not an actual change.

2019-04-28 08:11:47 UTC

Maybe some types survived in some places because of natural selection (others died out), or because animals inhering certain features chose to migrate to favorable places.

2019-04-28 08:12:17 UTC

Or maybe they migrated somewhere and God chose in some way for their offspring to manifest certain traits that had been dormant genes before

2019-04-28 08:12:45 UTC

Supernatural selection

2019-04-28 08:14:11 UTC

there isn't enough time for what you're suggesting. Think of this. Life more or less came into being only 540-60 million years ago, and almost all of the animal Phyla came fully formed, meaning some with the traits they would hold for millions of years. this in itself is another miracle, but the bigger miracle is that life arose in the first place. no biologist can solve the most fundamental problem of evolution, that being the ultimate origin of life, because they are incapable of solving the assembly problem.

2019-04-28 08:14:34 UTC

I don't believe in the old earth model

2019-04-28 08:14:54 UTC

the idea that the earth is billions of years old?

2019-04-28 08:14:57 UTC

Yeah

2019-04-28 08:15:24 UTC

Bible has a pretty clear timeline. Yesterday/last night we discussed this in depth in the religion channel

2019-04-28 08:15:37 UTC

then why would god create radioactive decay rates and then make them unique to each element?

2019-04-28 08:15:55 UTC

I don't see you around here often, or ever I think, but you should definitely join in on some of our discussions

2019-04-28 08:16:03 UTC

I would love to.

2019-04-28 08:16:13 UTC

Radioactive decay can be affected by a lot of things

2019-04-28 08:16:29 UTC

You gotta have a baseline to determine when it started to decay

2019-04-28 08:16:54 UTC

I believe the Flood could have been a major event to affect this

2019-04-28 08:17:19 UTC

true enough, but then how would one explain away the Radioactive cosmic background? the flood wouldn't be a good explanation for that

2019-04-28 08:18:04 UTC

Of course I could be wrong about young earth but, when God said days, he said days. The same word used elsewhere in the OT, especially with "evening and morning" always meant one day, 24 hours.

2019-04-28 08:18:41 UTC

you can't read the bible literally in this sense, just like you can't read it literally in the sense of Daniel 9:24-26

2019-04-28 08:19:38 UTC

There's no reason to think that part was anything but literal. Else evening and morning, and the creation of celestial bodies to help us determine time of day, seems like pointless writing on behalf of Moses

2019-04-28 08:20:31 UTC

Daniel 9:24-26 refers to sevens which translated from the original hebrew meant weeks, and yet the prophecy concerning in this chapter say at what time in history the Messiah would appear, and when one does the calculation properly, it matches up within a year of christ's birth and death

2019-04-28 08:22:28 UTC

the book of daniel is set approximately 490 years before christ's death

2019-04-28 08:23:00 UTC

which is exactly what is predicted in the book through the prophesy of daniel.

2019-04-28 08:23:38 UTC

But he is, of course, a prophet

2019-04-28 08:24:15 UTC

The creation isn't about prophecy, it's about history. It was written after the events it refers to, while Daniel is written before the events it refers to

2019-04-28 08:25:21 UTC

and we also need to understand that the writers of the old testament were not secretaries of the holy spirit. Genesis got the order of creation exactly right, but the timeframe of how fast or slow is off.

2019-04-28 08:25:33 UTC

And of course the context in which that Hebrew word "yom" is used, I'm inclined to take it literally when it says evening and morning

2019-04-28 08:26:51 UTC

Remember days were measured from sunset to sunset

2019-04-28 08:29:15 UTC

well, let me put it another way. we have never uncovered a fossil of any kind of human that appears in the same strata of rock as say, a dinosaur, yet genesis would tell me that at one point mankind and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. also, based on the dimensions specified in Genesis concerning the Ark, and that god commands that a pair of each and every living creature on earth be put inside, it is literally impossible to fit that many creatures in the same confined space for almost 8 months without warping spacetime inside the ark to make the interior far larger than it actually is.

2019-04-28 08:30:14 UTC

Then maybe a lot of them were dead?

2019-04-28 08:31:09 UTC

Maybe there was not as much genetic diversity and so instead of a thousand kinds of dogs/wolves, there was just two or three

2019-04-28 08:32:26 UTC

by that logic then there would be far less diversity than we see on the planet

2019-04-28 08:32:40 UTC

case and point the different types of finches on the galapagos.

2019-04-28 08:32:44 UTC

We think of a world covered in dinosaurs but in reality we haven't actually found that many fossils

2019-04-28 08:33:57 UTC

Job 40:15-19

2019-04-28 08:34:45 UTC

We've got ancient drawings of them

2019-04-28 08:34:52 UTC

going back to one of my older points, the flood would have done nothing to distort our detection of the radiological cosmic background, and most physicist will tell you that that is an adequate means of measuring the age of the universe

2019-04-28 08:35:49 UTC

Mankind has a lot of creativity but I don't see them inventing a monster in their heads that turns out to be real 5000 years later but predating the artist by 500 million years

2019-04-28 08:37:14 UTC

65-150 million years to be precise. if it were only 5000 years old, and remember that Job is after genesis, then they would be still around.

2019-04-28 08:38:32 UTC

maybe not where Job was, but they would have been referenced by many more cultures than just the Hebrew, especially since Job takes place after the events of Solomon (about 870-830BC)

2019-04-28 08:39:24 UTC

Most Biblical scholars put Job as the oldest book

2019-04-28 08:41:44 UTC

Job cannot be older than Genesis, otherwise job would be first in the bible, and from what I know Job was first written between the 7th and 4th century BC

2019-04-28 08:41:59 UTC

The physical writing, not the event obviously

2019-04-28 08:42:24 UTC

Job 22:16 references the flood. So we know it's after Noah

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