Message from @princeofdolalmroth

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2019-04-28 07:54:22 UTC  

it's more than that ragnarok, it boils down to them wanting being free from consequences, either of lifestyle choices, or freedom from that nagging feeling in the back of everyone's head that if you do something wrong your conscience will tell you.

2019-04-28 07:54:50 UTC  

it's actually ironic that atheism in this sense, in promising free will, takes it away from you

2019-04-28 07:54:55 UTC  

That's why people choose atheism, but not necessarily communism

2019-04-28 07:55:23 UTC  

there are no religious communists

2019-04-28 07:55:24 UTC  

Atheism is freedom from consequences. You die and you're dead, no God to punish you

2019-04-28 07:55:40 UTC  

if you find one, i'll be surprised

2019-04-28 07:55:44 UTC  

There are atheists who are not communist

2019-04-28 07:55:52 UTC  

That's the group I was referring to

2019-04-28 07:56:49 UTC  

In the early days of communism in China the Christians tended to side more with the communists than the nationalists. Of course neither were capitalist, but the KMT tended to be run more by rich bureaucrats

2019-04-28 07:57:48 UTC  

Because in the beginning they didn't present themselves as an anti-Christian movement like the Russians did

2019-04-28 07:58:14 UTC  

which is another way of saying they didn't actually know better

2019-04-28 07:59:05 UTC  

They didn't, they were just desperate

2019-04-28 07:59:32 UTC  

A lot of them weren't truly commies, they were just truly hungry

2019-04-28 08:00:44 UTC  

But they are a special and abnormal case

2019-04-28 08:00:48 UTC  

perhaps. I doubt there were many, if any genuine christians in the communist leadership in china though

2019-04-28 08:00:58 UTC  

In leadership definitely not

2019-04-28 08:03:01 UTC  

as we know, Christians aren't unique in putting their chips in the right place all the time. We do seem more common though, when it comes to promptly admitting our faults and asking for forgiveness. I'm just ranting about atheism this early because I'm reading some of Lee Strobel's works.

2019-04-28 08:03:39 UTC  

Lot of stuff I didn't know before reading them, like far more than I thought I knew

2019-04-28 08:05:09 UTC  

the biggest bit was that Science cannot provide a single proof for the origin of life. Microevolution, yes, but not the idea that we all have a common ancestor.

2019-04-28 08:06:10 UTC  

Who is he?

2019-04-28 08:06:54 UTC  

Lee Strobel is an american author and former atheist who wrote a book examining the proof for Christ as a lawyer would

2019-04-28 08:07:05 UTC  

"The case for Christ"

2019-04-28 08:08:26 UTC  

he examined almost every facet you could from medical scholars to archeologists to several people with doctorates in New and Old Testament study to come to the conclusion that Jesus is the Unique Son of God.

2019-04-28 08:09:19 UTC  

My theory of evolution is that the genetic code for variations was already present in each species created.

2019-04-28 08:09:58 UTC  

And the offspring varied like a random roll of dice, with some inheriting some genes, others getting other genes

2019-04-28 08:10:43 UTC  

Not quite microevolution. Not an actual change.

2019-04-28 08:11:47 UTC  

Maybe some types survived in some places because of natural selection (others died out), or because animals inhering certain features chose to migrate to favorable places.

2019-04-28 08:12:17 UTC  

Or maybe they migrated somewhere and God chose in some way for their offspring to manifest certain traits that had been dormant genes before

2019-04-28 08:12:45 UTC  

Supernatural selection

2019-04-28 08:14:11 UTC  

there isn't enough time for what you're suggesting. Think of this. Life more or less came into being only 540-60 million years ago, and almost all of the animal Phyla came fully formed, meaning some with the traits they would hold for millions of years. this in itself is another miracle, but the bigger miracle is that life arose in the first place. no biologist can solve the most fundamental problem of evolution, that being the ultimate origin of life, because they are incapable of solving the assembly problem.

2019-04-28 08:14:34 UTC  

I don't believe in the old earth model

2019-04-28 08:14:54 UTC  

the idea that the earth is billions of years old?

2019-04-28 08:14:57 UTC  

Yeah

2019-04-28 08:15:24 UTC  

Bible has a pretty clear timeline. Yesterday/last night we discussed this in depth in the religion channel

2019-04-28 08:15:37 UTC  

then why would god create radioactive decay rates and then make them unique to each element?

2019-04-28 08:15:55 UTC  

I don't see you around here often, or ever I think, but you should definitely join in on some of our discussions

2019-04-28 08:16:03 UTC  

I would love to.

2019-04-28 08:16:13 UTC  

Radioactive decay can be affected by a lot of things

2019-04-28 08:16:29 UTC  

You gotta have a baseline to determine when it started to decay

2019-04-28 08:16:54 UTC  

I believe the Flood could have been a major event to affect this

2019-04-28 08:17:19 UTC  

true enough, but then how would one explain away the Radioactive cosmic background? the flood wouldn't be a good explanation for that