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2018-02-12 00:41:50 UTC

so they stop thinking they can get away with it

2018-02-12 00:42:04 UTC

tbh

2018-02-12 00:42:07 UTC

they can

2018-02-12 00:42:08 UTC

@Deleted User Are we talking online or physically?

2018-02-12 00:42:21 UTC

@Deleted User They can and they do.

2018-02-12 00:42:45 UTC

Physically but I never did anything with them I just acted like I supported them to learn more about it

2018-02-12 00:42:52 UTC

Since they're paranoid af

2018-02-12 00:42:59 UTC

you are german @Deleted User ?

2018-02-12 00:43:50 UTC

@Deleted User Yes, actually, my grand parents grand parents came from germany after the civil war, and about a few decades before WW1.

2018-02-12 00:44:01 UTC

ahhh

2018-02-12 00:44:14 UTC

i am dearly sorry for the german people

2018-02-12 00:44:23 UTC

i have heard of the way they are still pushed down

2018-02-12 00:44:40 UTC

It's been that way since after WW1.

2018-02-12 00:45:04 UTC

i believe german people are educated only on the history of ww1 and ww2 and how evil they are

2018-02-12 00:45:15 UTC

Hmm, I wonder if the first of my ancestors in the US actually came here before germany united, and it was still prussia.

2018-02-12 00:45:51 UTC

my ancestors are scottish-scandinavian

2018-02-12 00:45:58 UTC

That's something that you would have to put a fair amount of research into.

2018-02-12 00:46:19 UTC

i've heard it from a few german people

2018-02-12 00:46:32 UTC

they aren't taught much past the 2 world wars

2018-02-12 00:46:44 UTC

Is that why you're natsoc

2018-02-12 00:47:02 UTC

hmm

2018-02-12 00:47:35 UTC

@Deleted User Who knows?

2018-02-12 00:48:08 UTC

Ruhm zu PreuรŸen

2018-02-12 00:48:29 UTC

Just wondering

2018-02-12 00:48:44 UTC

I have some krauts in my family

2018-02-12 00:48:54 UTC

One of them is a Nazi

2018-02-12 00:49:11 UTC

But he's also an edgy 15 year old

2018-02-12 00:49:30 UTC

Nah, not really, I am not a nazi because my ancestors are german.

2018-02-12 00:50:00 UTC

I would have to be autistic to misinterprit my heritage like that.

2018-02-12 00:50:58 UTC

Lol yeah I'm not sure if that's why he is either

2018-02-12 00:51:25 UTC

But I do know that *some* people would do it for that reason

2018-02-12 00:51:34 UTC

Yhea, there are always that kind of people.

2018-02-12 01:27:39 UTC

sup

2018-02-12 01:52:53 UTC

Number 1917, ukrainian grain hoarder
The last thing you'd want in your communist utopia is some grain hoarding kulak, but it turns out that might be what you get.

2018-02-12 02:57:57 UTC

Yea but you dont want hungry thieves in a capitalist system

2018-02-12 02:58:02 UTC

And thats what you get...

2018-02-12 02:58:29 UTC

So idk how dealing with the issues of agency in any system can be a condemnation of said system

2018-02-12 02:59:20 UTC

And notice thats explicitly authoritarian socialism, marxism, marxist-leninism, stalinism.

2018-02-12 02:59:44 UTC

There is no world in where you intrinsically get hungry kulaks from communism

2018-02-12 03:00:44 UTC

Its explicitly as a result of the state capitalist system in the USSR, and the fact they essentially tried to skip industrializing and going straight from agricultural peasants to communism.

2018-02-12 03:01:52 UTC

@Comrade Skeltal They did industrialize.....

2018-02-12 03:02:00 UTC

Ever hear of the 10 year plan?

2018-02-12 03:13:30 UTC

*5 year plan

2018-02-12 03:13:42 UTC

But yeah, Stalin went straight to industrialism my dude

2018-02-12 03:52:30 UTC

Yea later

2018-02-12 03:52:38 UTC

And that planned sucked ass

2018-02-12 03:52:42 UTC

Hence kulaks

2018-02-12 03:52:47 UTC

N all that shit

2018-02-12 03:53:48 UTC

The plan was in place in 28

2018-02-12 03:53:57 UTC

Didnt change to fuck the kulaks until 29

2018-02-12 03:54:31 UTC

And either way

2018-02-12 03:55:06 UTC

Kulaks are specific to the Russian context, and what happened to them a byproduct of authoritarianism

2018-02-12 03:55:18 UTC

Make sense?

2018-02-12 03:57:10 UTC

Or maybe not.

2018-02-12 03:58:26 UTC

well the first plan was kinda meh, but stalin *did* bring industrialism. adn yeah, thats pretty standard history, it makes sense to me.

2018-02-12 03:58:58 UTC

but this isn't to say that I agree with stalin per se, I support him in the name of left unity, but im still an anarchist

2018-02-12 03:59:18 UTC

I still don't like what stalin did to the anarchists and what trotsky did to the free territory

2018-02-12 03:59:38 UTC

but stalin still industrialized russia. That much is admirable.

2018-02-12 04:03:49 UTC

russophobes? sign me up

2018-02-12 04:04:46 UTC

who else is coming?

2018-02-12 04:04:51 UTC
2018-02-12 04:50:22 UTC

hi

2018-02-12 14:36:42 UTC

@Builderelf Stalin had good reason to target the anarchists, mostly due to the fact that they were plotting against him, and were threatening to tear the union apart.

2018-02-12 14:38:13 UTC

Had stalin not taken extreme action, it is likely that the union would have collapsed.

2018-02-12 14:42:43 UTC

And the fact that he had to exterminate most of the leadership in the union in under a decade that lenin died really shows how much of a mess, the union really was.

2018-02-12 16:03:20 UTC

nice right wing rhetoric

2018-02-12 16:05:15 UTC

FACT: National bolshevism is the ultimate form of leftism and the best thing that came out of it.

2018-02-12 16:05:54 UTC

i give up...

2018-02-12 16:06:05 UTC

the left is retarded

2018-02-12 16:06:13 UTC

the right is pathetic

2018-02-12 16:06:36 UTC

that's your problem tho

2018-02-12 16:06:44 UTC

no

2018-02-12 16:06:50 UTC

meme ideologies are memes

2018-02-12 16:06:54 UTC

it is the problem of all economies across the world

2018-02-12 16:07:08 UTC

and activist groups

2018-02-12 16:07:12 UTC

who seek anarchy

2018-02-12 16:07:22 UTC

how can anarchy possibly build a better world?

2018-02-12 16:07:40 UTC

all it causes is colateral damage

2018-02-12 16:07:43 UTC

and death

2018-02-12 16:07:52 UTC

it won't change who is in charge

2018-02-12 16:08:29 UTC

you can't really accuse anarchy when it has never been tried

2018-02-12 16:08:43 UTC

i don't need to accuse

2018-02-12 16:08:50 UTC

it dosen't need to be tried

2018-02-12 16:09:01 UTC

for you to know that it is deceptive

2018-02-12 16:09:13 UTC

and the worse possible thing you could to create change

2018-02-12 16:09:47 UTC

What side are you trying to pick rn?

2018-02-12 16:10:04 UTC

Hello i just joined today

2018-02-12 16:10:13 UTC

fight the modern establishment with credence and resolve to overthrow their bullshit excuse for democracy

2018-02-12 16:10:17 UTC

but don't try to fight them

2018-02-12 16:10:21 UTC

they will slaughter you

2018-02-12 16:10:26 UTC

no shit

2018-02-12 16:10:35 UTC

but after you fight it

2018-02-12 16:10:39 UTC

that is what anarchists are trying to do

2018-02-12 16:10:41 UTC

what do you want to do?

2018-02-12 16:10:53 UTC

the thing is

2018-02-12 16:11:02 UTC

the problem is

2018-02-12 16:11:16 UTC

the world is ruled by its intectual and moral inferiors

2018-02-12 16:11:29 UTC

don't let yourself be ruled by your inferiors

2018-02-12 16:11:35 UTC

that is a call, not for anarchy

2018-02-12 16:11:45 UTC

but for slow, gradual change

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