Message from @Builderelf

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2018-02-12 02:57:57 UTC  

Yea but you dont want hungry thieves in a capitalist system

2018-02-12 02:58:02 UTC  

And thats what you get...

2018-02-12 02:58:29 UTC  

So idk how dealing with the issues of agency in any system can be a condemnation of said system

2018-02-12 02:59:20 UTC  

And notice thats explicitly authoritarian socialism, marxism, marxist-leninism, stalinism.

2018-02-12 02:59:44 UTC  

There is no world in where you intrinsically get hungry kulaks from communism

2018-02-12 03:00:44 UTC  

Its explicitly as a result of the state capitalist system in the USSR, and the fact they essentially tried to skip industrializing and going straight from agricultural peasants to communism.

2018-02-12 03:01:52 UTC  

@Comrade Skeltal They did industrialize.....

2018-02-12 03:02:00 UTC  

Ever hear of the 10 year plan?

2018-02-12 03:13:30 UTC  

*5 year plan

2018-02-12 03:13:42 UTC  

But yeah, Stalin went straight to industrialism my dude

2018-02-12 03:52:30 UTC  

Yea later

2018-02-12 03:52:38 UTC  

And that planned sucked ass

2018-02-12 03:52:42 UTC  

Hence kulaks

2018-02-12 03:52:47 UTC  

N all that shit

2018-02-12 03:53:48 UTC  

The plan was in place in 28

2018-02-12 03:53:57 UTC  

Didnt change to fuck the kulaks until 29

2018-02-12 03:54:31 UTC  

And either way

2018-02-12 03:55:06 UTC  

Kulaks are specific to the Russian context, and what happened to them a byproduct of authoritarianism

2018-02-12 03:55:18 UTC  

Make sense?

2018-02-12 03:57:10 UTC  

Or maybe not.

2018-02-12 03:58:26 UTC  

well the first plan was kinda meh, but stalin *did* bring industrialism. adn yeah, thats pretty standard history, it makes sense to me.

2018-02-12 03:58:58 UTC  

but this isn't to say that I agree with stalin per se, I support him in the name of left unity, but im still an anarchist

2018-02-12 03:59:18 UTC  

I still don't like what stalin did to the anarchists and what trotsky did to the free territory

2018-02-12 03:59:38 UTC  

but stalin still industrialized russia. That much is admirable.

2018-02-12 04:03:49 UTC  

russophobes? sign me up

2018-02-12 04:04:46 UTC  

who else is coming?

2018-02-12 04:04:51 UTC  
2018-02-12 04:50:22 UTC  

hi

2018-02-12 14:36:42 UTC  

@Builderelf Stalin had good reason to target the anarchists, mostly due to the fact that they were plotting against him, and were threatening to tear the union apart.

2018-02-12 14:38:13 UTC  

Had stalin not taken extreme action, it is likely that the union would have collapsed.

2018-02-12 14:42:43 UTC  

And the fact that he had to exterminate most of the leadership in the union in under a decade that lenin died really shows how much of a mess, the union really was.

2018-02-12 16:03:20 UTC  

nice right wing rhetoric

2018-02-12 16:05:15 UTC  

FACT: National bolshevism is the ultimate form of leftism and the best thing that came out of it.

2018-02-12 16:05:54 UTC  

i give up...

2018-02-12 16:06:05 UTC  

the left is retarded

2018-02-12 16:06:13 UTC  

the right is pathetic

2018-02-12 16:06:36 UTC  

that's your problem tho

2018-02-12 16:06:44 UTC  

no

2018-02-12 16:06:50 UTC  

meme ideologies are memes

2018-02-12 16:06:54 UTC  

it is the problem of all economies across the world

2018-02-12 16:07:08 UTC  

and activist groups