Message from @Comrade Skeltal

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2018-02-12 01:27:39 UTC  

sup

2018-02-12 01:52:53 UTC  

Number 1917, ukrainian grain hoarder
The last thing you'd want in your communist utopia is some grain hoarding kulak, but it turns out that might be what you get.

2018-02-12 02:57:57 UTC  

Yea but you dont want hungry thieves in a capitalist system

2018-02-12 02:58:02 UTC  

And thats what you get...

2018-02-12 02:58:29 UTC  

So idk how dealing with the issues of agency in any system can be a condemnation of said system

2018-02-12 02:59:20 UTC  

And notice thats explicitly authoritarian socialism, marxism, marxist-leninism, stalinism.

2018-02-12 02:59:44 UTC  

There is no world in where you intrinsically get hungry kulaks from communism

2018-02-12 03:00:44 UTC  

Its explicitly as a result of the state capitalist system in the USSR, and the fact they essentially tried to skip industrializing and going straight from agricultural peasants to communism.

2018-02-12 03:01:52 UTC  

@Comrade Skeltal They did industrialize.....

2018-02-12 03:02:00 UTC  

Ever hear of the 10 year plan?

2018-02-12 03:13:30 UTC  

*5 year plan

2018-02-12 03:13:42 UTC  

But yeah, Stalin went straight to industrialism my dude

2018-02-12 03:52:30 UTC  

Yea later

2018-02-12 03:52:38 UTC  

And that planned sucked ass

2018-02-12 03:52:42 UTC  

Hence kulaks

2018-02-12 03:52:47 UTC  

N all that shit

2018-02-12 03:53:48 UTC  

The plan was in place in 28

2018-02-12 03:53:57 UTC  

Didnt change to fuck the kulaks until 29

2018-02-12 03:54:31 UTC  

And either way

2018-02-12 03:55:06 UTC  

Kulaks are specific to the Russian context, and what happened to them a byproduct of authoritarianism

2018-02-12 03:55:18 UTC  

Make sense?

2018-02-12 03:57:10 UTC  

Or maybe not.

2018-02-12 03:58:26 UTC  

well the first plan was kinda meh, but stalin *did* bring industrialism. adn yeah, thats pretty standard history, it makes sense to me.

2018-02-12 03:58:58 UTC  

but this isn't to say that I agree with stalin per se, I support him in the name of left unity, but im still an anarchist

2018-02-12 03:59:18 UTC  

I still don't like what stalin did to the anarchists and what trotsky did to the free territory

2018-02-12 03:59:38 UTC  

but stalin still industrialized russia. That much is admirable.

2018-02-12 04:03:49 UTC  

russophobes? sign me up

2018-02-12 04:04:46 UTC  

who else is coming?

2018-02-12 04:04:51 UTC  
2018-02-12 04:50:22 UTC  

hi

2018-02-12 14:36:42 UTC  

@Builderelf Stalin had good reason to target the anarchists, mostly due to the fact that they were plotting against him, and were threatening to tear the union apart.

2018-02-12 14:38:13 UTC  

Had stalin not taken extreme action, it is likely that the union would have collapsed.

2018-02-12 14:42:43 UTC  

And the fact that he had to exterminate most of the leadership in the union in under a decade that lenin died really shows how much of a mess, the union really was.

2018-02-12 16:03:20 UTC  

nice right wing rhetoric

2018-02-12 16:05:15 UTC  

FACT: National bolshevism is the ultimate form of leftism and the best thing that came out of it.

2018-02-12 16:05:54 UTC  

i give up...

2018-02-12 16:06:05 UTC  

the left is retarded

2018-02-12 16:06:13 UTC  

the right is pathetic

2018-02-12 16:06:36 UTC  

that's your problem tho

2018-02-12 16:06:44 UTC  

no

2018-02-12 16:06:50 UTC  

meme ideologies are memes