You're acting as if numerous groups who all did their research into a tragedy independently, that didnt become widely reported for years after it happened, would somehow all come to the same number lol

Most death tolls throughout history give a margin of error

Unless of course all death tolls with a simple mathematical _range_ are fabricated :/

@Comrade Skeltal But the thing is that, the red cross and other organizations had discrepencies up into the millions, an interesting note is that the world census added no deaths at all in their population count until decades after the so called events.

@Deleted User Hypothetically what would it take to convince you you're wrong?

Well it was a mass tragedy

The margin is going to be in the millions

And,

@Donitz >Implying that you have not done the same attacks since the past 5 arguments

I just said they didnt report it until years afterward

The holocaust didnt become a tangible learned experience until then

Nobody knew the full extent of what occurred and most people outside of europe were ignorant of it

@Comrade Skeltal Then what is a "learned experience"? And how does a tradgedy like that get such a descrepency across so many organizations, state and non state alike?

Then it swept into prominence with the coming deaths of those who survived it sharing their stories, brfore they passed obviously

How do you know they were actual survivors with evidence to back their claims?

Because they all dont sit their and literally uncover every body that the other groups uncovet

No one group scoured all of europe

And found every single person

Hold on, I have to go.

To have died in the holocaust

Thats retarded lol

Not to mention some people didnt even have bodies to be found

They went up in literal smoke

@Comrade Skeltal You can't reason with an unreasonable person

And records of their existence prior, that frankly wouldve been destroyed, would need to be found

Or recounted through living relatives

Like this is reaaaaaallllyyy simple stuff lol

@Comrade Skeltal To give a comparison, there are those who ask rape victims “What were you wearing?” They assume that the victim is a liar, they hideously assume that the victim likely had it coming based on their behavior.

I assume Holocaust deniers do the same. Either the Jews “had it coming” or “exaggerated it.” It’s the same idea. Either way he is a troll so why do you put so much effort into 'debating' him?

Taking issues with the process of compiling statistics lmao

Also lol idk

I figure if this "leftist" chat is all nazis anyway

@Donitz I have told you time and time again, I am not a troll, but you do not want ti hear a word I have to say, making you unreasonable, so what makes you different from a troll? @Comrade Skeltal like I said, I have to go, due to me having to work, but I will be back later.... if you stay.

@Comrade Skeltal He's never going to concede and there's no one to contact to kick him out of this server so don't waste your time here

@Donitz Go ahead then.

Are there even any actual leftists here

@Comrade Skeltal Nope.

Gfg

@Comrade Skeltal Like 5

Why do these chats keep getting made

Oh sweet Jesus I have an identical twin now?! @Leon Trotsky

Same picture and everything

Damn nazis masquerading as socialists

yeah lol @Kek

Will the real Leon Trotsky please stand up...

Now my nickname is Leon’s birth name. All is well

We have too many, bring me an ice pick

boo

dang it

not cool

>"Bronstein"
*Bronstein*
***(((BRONSTEIN)))***

@Cam And?

Bron*stein*

Was every Soviet official a fucking Jew?

@Cam That's irrelevant

How so? You asked why I made a big deal of the name

I answered

Kike

@Cam Fuck off

Nah, I'll enjoy being here. Lots of fellow fashies

@Cam >Da soviets were all jewz 😛 Because stalin was so jewish right?
Jews were persecuted too under soviet rule

Then why do you support communism if it persecutes Jews? You seem to love them so much.

Unless you want more Jews persecuted

@Cam Where in the Communist manifesto does it say to be antisemtic?

It doesnt

He's gonna BS about "most Jews are rich"

Doesn't, but when you try to apply communism ends up killing a lot of people.

100 million compared to (supposedly) 4-6 million? Hitler was a lightweight compared to commies

Except nobody is advocating for a single party state in which the vanguard becomes the new capitalist, bureaucratic class tasked with suppressing "dissidents"

You want your little "classless" utopia where everyone is holding hands sharing with each other?

And literally every state on earth suppresses people opposing the government

To then complain about people who try to oppose government, disobey it's laws, and then be punished, as if "that's what Hitler did!!!!111" is shenanigans

@Cam So how is Communism antisemtic?

And he's going on a tirade about Hitler and governments.
You an anarchist or some shit?

A bunch of people died for a bunch of reasons, and shit was corrupt out the ass, but in no way does communism specify the targeting of anyone or anything that doesn't build fascism, or exploit.

And you should read what I wrote :l

Seeing as how it qualified and gave context to whatever you meant to prove about "A lot of people dying"

Yeah I read what you said. You sound like a stereotypical anarchist.

A lot of people die under liberalism and capitalist markets, but I don't supposed we should start counting up a death toll huh

Cause it's retarded, it's WHY people die that matters.

What are you? Commie? Fash? Lolbertarian?

Berniecrat?

No idea just yet, been flirting with the communism bit seeing as how everything else seems to suck ass.

But I did lol at "Lolbertarian"

Gonna use that one

Yeah, don't bother with communism. Communism is fucking retarded. It bases its core idea in that everyone is an identical cog that can be swapped out for another at any time in a state-owned machine.

Either that or they believe anarchism works and that "class" can be eradicated even though the most primitive human tribes have a chiefdom, a leader.

Plus they have bad aesthetics.

Thsts not what it's based in, at all lol.

It's how it treats people. I've talked to enough commies to figure that out

They won't tell you it outright.

Well excuse me if I'm skeptical

Cause if they don't tell you right out,

Its probably cause it isn't a thing.

Its not like they have anything to hide.

It's because they don't realise that themselves

This whole utopian idea of "let's all share and be friends" doesn't work.

Communism in no way specifies the trampling of any "individuality" of the proletariat, there is no "machine" to be a cog in for the majority of the ideology

Unless you advocate for a very specific socialism in one state concept

Its not even about sharing and being friends

It hinges on the greed of the prole

That they, being the suffering disillusioned majority deserve better and had better seize that conception of better

Not for other people, but for themselves.

Do you believe that "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a good idea?

@Cam He probably does if he is a communist

Explain why.

Its why they confederate, not because oh help everyone else, but because they realize it's the easiest way to help themselves

Its why humanity socializes in general

Both LOAVE and Asa if he thinks the idea is a good one.

And getting back to your chiefdom bit, those arise out of the "legitimized" use of force

Not simply evolving through conversation at random through evolution

There are plenty of societies of literal equals

People who simply "exist"

Entirely horizontal in power structure

"societies of literal equals"
Example.

One moment

@Cam Revolutionary Catalonia , Makhnovia and Kibbutz,all very successful communist socties.

I'll continue this later. Having some spiced rum and a meal.

Lol I can't get access to my pdfs without using a school log in I don't have

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirahã

But also this

And apparently Peter Gelderloos "The Rise of Hierarchy"

Also details why tribes adopt a hierarchy in the first place

Whereas others don't

Daily reminder that communism is a failure

Because success is measured entirely on the ability of something to violently repress other things, or not be repressed itself.

You must first fail to succeed #inspiration

Lol

Capitalism is also bad

Since the jews relay upon it

Are you a Korean nazi

:l

Syndicalist

National syndicalist

Oof

Who are more neurotic, Jews or Koreans? It’s a tossup for me

And monarchist

Really tired of all these variations

I know what syndicalism is

And it finds common goal with communism

What is "national syndicalism"

The idea of a racial hierarchy

Is it nationalistic, hate the browns hate the hook nose syndicalism

Gfg

Course it is

Hi, I’m a shitposter, I don’t have a personality so have this super unique edgy ideology instead

@Comrade Skeltal What is national-syndicalism?
I have heard that national-syndicalism wants to replace party-politics with labour-unions, giving each proffession ore set of proffesions one chair in parliament ore something like that.

^^^

I prefer a king tho

Well according to the totally racially superior Korean here, there is a monarchy involved, and a heavy dose of race baiting.

So rip

I was just defending Korea too

Cause I love Korean people :c

Well I hate every other race

The niggers cause personal reasons

LOL

But I'm black

Y u do dis

We could've had something special

The jews and th whites for the decline of the west

I’m an anprim, language and symbolic thought were a mistake, reverse the agricultural revolution, HAIL ZERZAN!

The spics for the drugs

What are you lol

The Slavs for Bolsheviks

I'm korean

No I'm just a bit confused is all lol

Cause you'd think that the Japanese would've taught you guys maybe this is a no no ideology

Did you even see my profile pic?

Show this little dick gook what a long dick nigga can doo

Lol

You eva seen a looooooong DICK!?

Korean Americans are over represented among spree shooters

I'm not into bestiality @Kuboa

You gon' learn today!!!!

And since when?

Don't you guys like fuck sheep

Or some shit

There is more humanity and soul in even the dumbest ghetto black than in the average Asian insect drone

>niggers
>humans

Props to Kuboa

There's the black man and then there's the nigger

No, no there isn't

That's literally shenanigans

There are just black people, that you then call nigger

Cause you suck ass

I’ve joked around and shit the shit with blacks, I can’t figure out how Asians bond socially, I think they get signals from a hive mind

Shot the shit

Lol

When you look at China street view

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

"The eye of the swarm!!!"

But also rip I feel dirty

Tfw your society resembles an anthill, but with Starcraft

You're an ass for making me racist Korean person

No-one plays starcraft

LOl

Only fags do nowdays

Anthill with statcraft

My sides

>a nigger working
My sides

It’s ok to be racist toward Asians and only Asians, even liberals don’t care if you make a Ching Chong joke, they are the lowest status race

Go make my iPad lil dick

Chinks are not human

Same with nips

Every other race is below me

Wat

But I'm at work

Rn

Do your sides hurt?

Lol

I fuck with southeast Asians, they seem human. Idk what the hell the kimchi eaters think about

@Comrade Skeltal We should've nuked all of them

Do it

Nah nukes brought us hentai

I adore war

Oof the shitposting

2 weren't enough

War is the greatest thing we'd achived

I love war

So bloody much

It’s funny that Koreans created the worst examples of state socialism and American controlled capitalism, they don’t do subtlety

I want kin to nuke us

I feel like spending the majority of history under control of one of your neighbors

A great war

A war to send us all to hell

Isn't being good at war

Everyone loves war

War is important to humanity

I make war on your moms pussy

Sending my helmeted soldier to breach the fort

And I'll slit your throat

She want that round eye dick

Like all Asian women

I want to see every country burn

The most cucked race

No duck

Just fire

Pain is the most beautiful thing in life

@Deleted User Doesn't South Korea have the highest suicide rate of any country in the entire world?

Yes

How long until you’re in the news for gooking out on some innocent schoolchildren? Maybe I should notify someone beforehand

I sometimes stumble across a dead body in the forest

I sense school shooter vibes

I'm not American so no

But I just love the death tolls

Do you ever realize that your nihilism is a projection of self hatred

If that's what you call nihilism

@Kuboa I doubt he/she is even a Korean

Pretty sure it's just shit posting

Ikr