Message from @Comrade Skeltal

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2018-01-08 19:07:03 UTC  

Either that or they believe anarchism works and that "class" can be eradicated even though the most primitive human tribes have a chiefdom, a leader.

2018-01-08 19:07:28 UTC  

Plus they have bad aesthetics.

2018-01-08 19:08:53 UTC  

Thsts not what it's based in, at all lol.

2018-01-08 19:09:14 UTC  

It's how it treats people. I've talked to enough commies to figure that out

2018-01-08 19:09:32 UTC  

They won't tell you it outright.

2018-01-08 19:09:36 UTC  

Well excuse me if I'm skeptical

2018-01-08 19:09:42 UTC  

Cause if they don't tell you right out,

2018-01-08 19:09:48 UTC  

Its probably cause it isn't a thing.

2018-01-08 19:09:54 UTC  

Its not like they have anything to hide.

2018-01-08 19:10:01 UTC  

It's because they don't realise that themselves

2018-01-08 19:10:24 UTC  

This whole utopian idea of "let's all share and be friends" doesn't work.

2018-01-08 19:10:49 UTC  

Communism in no way specifies the trampling of any "individuality" of the proletariat, there is no "machine" to be a cog in for the majority of the ideology

2018-01-08 19:11:00 UTC  

Unless you advocate for a very specific socialism in one state concept

2018-01-08 19:11:29 UTC  

Its not even about sharing and being friends

2018-01-08 19:11:36 UTC  

It hinges on the greed of the prole

2018-01-08 19:12:07 UTC  

That they, being the suffering disillusioned majority deserve better and had better seize that conception of better

2018-01-08 19:12:25 UTC  

Not for other people, but for themselves.

2018-01-08 19:12:28 UTC  

Do you believe that "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a good idea?

2018-01-08 19:12:47 UTC  

@Cam He probably does if he is a communist

2018-01-08 19:12:54 UTC  

Explain why.

2018-01-08 19:13:07 UTC  

Its why they confederate, not because oh help everyone else, but because they realize it's the easiest way to help themselves

2018-01-08 19:13:16 UTC  

Its why humanity socializes in general

2018-01-08 19:13:25 UTC  

Both LOAVE and Asa if he thinks the idea is a good one.

2018-01-08 19:13:34 UTC  

And getting back to your chiefdom bit, those arise out of the "legitimized" use of force

2018-01-08 19:13:49 UTC  

Not simply evolving through conversation at random through evolution

2018-01-08 19:13:56 UTC  

There are plenty of societies of literal equals

2018-01-08 19:14:01 UTC  

People who simply "exist"

2018-01-08 19:14:09 UTC  

Entirely horizontal in power structure

2018-01-08 19:14:21 UTC  

"societies of literal equals"
Example.

2018-01-08 19:14:27 UTC  

One moment

2018-01-08 19:15:02 UTC  

@Cam Revolutionary Catalonia , Makhnovia and Kibbutz,all very successful communist socties.

2018-01-08 19:15:57 UTC  

I'll continue this later. Having some spiced rum and a meal.

2018-01-08 19:17:39 UTC  

Lol I can't get access to my pdfs without using a school log in I don't have

2018-01-08 19:17:44 UTC  

But also this

2018-01-08 19:18:33 UTC  

And apparently Peter Gelderloos "The Rise of Hierarchy"

2018-01-08 19:18:44 UTC  

Also details why tribes adopt a hierarchy in the first place

2018-01-08 19:18:48 UTC  

Whereas others don't

2018-01-08 19:21:58 UTC  

Daily reminder that communism is a failure

2018-01-08 19:22:43 UTC  

Because success is measured entirely on the ability of something to violently repress other things, or not be repressed itself.

2018-01-08 19:23:42 UTC  

You must first fail to succeed #inspiration