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2017-07-19 22:42:40 UTC

Thats a valid criticism

2017-07-19 22:42:40 UTC

it's literally the opposite of what you think

2017-07-19 22:42:44 UTC

pop culture is cancerous

2017-07-19 22:43:24 UTC

Luckily we in Texas have our own sort of culture, but its still very indistinguishable from the rest of america

2017-07-19 22:44:22 UTC

And as far as media outside of the states

2017-07-19 22:44:36 UTC

Lots of countries have been eroded culturally

2017-07-19 22:44:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337364146314280971/37af502c8323108819e704d2560bfe017e09661f13595508e913914c5080a724.png

2017-07-19 22:44:43 UTC

stolen shamelessly from wikipedia, but

2017-07-19 22:44:50 UTC

```Originally the term 'cultural Marxism' had a niche academic usage within cultural studies where it referred to a form of anti-capitalist cultural critique which specifically targeted those aspects of culture that are seen as profit driven and mass produced under capitalism.[57][58][59][60][61] As an area of discourse it has commonly considered the industrialization and mass-production of culture by The Culture Industry as having an overall negative effect on society, an effect which reifies the audience away from developing a more authentic sense of human values.[62][58] British theorists such as Richard Hoggart of The Birmingham School developed a working class sense of 'British Cultural Marxism' which objected to the "massification" and "drift" away from local cultures, a process of commercialization Hoggart saw as being enabled by tabloid newspapers, advertising, and the American film industry.[63]```

2017-07-19 22:44:53 UTC

american movies are the movies shown as the best thereo

2017-07-19 22:45:18 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337364303441166336/8381a81f80b012f7f0b22aeb617398ad1d87b5e5ee1e7b214106bc2dab5413db.png

2017-07-19 22:45:33 UTC

yes, I've seen those ridiculous memes

2017-07-19 22:45:38 UTC

but they have nothing to do with reality

2017-07-19 22:45:59 UTC

what I just told you is what the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism were actually about

2017-07-19 22:46:01 UTC
2017-07-19 22:46:35 UTC

also, btw, most socialists and liberals who call themselves left-wing don't know anything about the Frankfurt School

2017-07-19 22:46:48 UTC

it's literally just a right-wing talking point that no one else really knows or cares about

2017-07-19 22:47:08 UTC

Its more of a talking point that the jews control shit

2017-07-19 22:47:10 UTC

Look at the media

2017-07-19 22:47:23 UTC

I'll admit I already found something I agree with it about, which surprises me

2017-07-19 22:47:40 UTC

umm, you're in the UK

2017-07-19 22:47:47 UTC

The Frankfurt School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

2017-07-19 22:47:47 UTC

half the stuff is owned by Murdoch

2017-07-19 22:47:50 UTC

not a Jew

2017-07-19 22:48:09 UTC

oh yeah, we have to pay ยฃ100 for BBC propaganda

2017-07-19 22:48:11 UTC

Imagine that

2017-07-19 22:48:13 UTC

Adornodore.

2017-07-19 22:48:16 UTC

umm

2017-07-19 22:48:21 UTC

BBC is mostly right-wing lately

2017-07-19 22:48:28 UTC

*right-wing*

2017-07-19 22:48:30 UTC

heh

2017-07-19 22:48:34 UTC

ha

2017-07-19 22:48:34 UTC

they're quite pro-government

2017-07-19 22:48:45 UTC

oh please do show how they are right wing

2017-07-19 22:48:47 UTC

BBC = Big Black

2017-07-19 22:48:50 UTC

Crayon

2017-07-19 22:48:57 UTC

And the convervatives are neoliberals

2017-07-19 22:48:58 UTC

>Right-wing
>Inherently pro-government
My old Libertarian has been triggered

2017-07-19 22:49:05 UTC

you're literally just repeating delusional conspiracy theories

2017-07-19 22:49:10 UTC

the government is right-wing, apache

2017-07-19 22:49:11 UTC

legalising gay marriage

2017-07-19 22:49:21 UTC

that's not what neoliberal means

2017-07-19 22:49:31 UTC

neoliberalism has to do with economic policy, not social policy

2017-07-19 22:49:39 UTC

neoliberalism involves doing anything to curb profits

2017-07-19 22:49:41 UTC

Thatcher was neoliberal

2017-07-19 22:49:43 UTC

Theresa May sucks cock.

2017-07-19 22:49:45 UTC

even selling to resisting forces

2017-07-19 22:49:47 UTC

I see you're using the Orwellian Left-Right spectrum then, so then you'd be right

2017-07-19 22:49:50 UTC

Theresa Thatcher

2017-07-19 22:50:25 UTC

yeah, conservatives aren't very economically right-wing nor socially

2017-07-19 22:50:27 UTC

Orwell was a closeted liberal.

2017-07-19 22:50:40 UTC

they are economically right-wing and socially they are as well

2017-07-19 22:50:43 UTC

the conservative party I mean

2017-07-19 22:50:53 UTC

He was just really anti-government @MLM (TW)

2017-07-19 22:51:08 UTC

socially, how

2017-07-19 22:51:15 UTC

The Conservative Party aka the Cocaine Addicts Party.

2017-07-19 22:51:19 UTC

economically, again, not left wing but not very right-wing

2017-07-19 22:51:34 UTC

labour party are shit-heads too

2017-07-19 22:51:42 UTC

austerity is a quite right-wing economic policy

2017-07-19 22:51:43 UTC

They'd properly ruin the economy

2017-07-19 22:51:55 UTC

Corbyn is great

2017-07-19 22:52:03 UTC

most of the rest of the PLP is shit

2017-07-19 22:52:16 UTC

Corbyn has slept with 48 women.

2017-07-19 22:52:23 UTC

Wut

2017-07-19 22:52:27 UTC

Comrade Corbyn introducing soviet britain

2017-07-19 22:52:38 UTC

I'd be good with that

2017-07-19 22:52:57 UTC

Labour Party has more sex.

2017-07-19 22:53:06 UTC

bs

2017-07-19 22:53:13 UTC

Conservative party has more sex with children by far

2017-07-19 22:53:26 UTC

they know how to have a good time ๐Ÿ˜‰

2017-07-19 22:53:37 UTC

Conservatives worship Moloch.

2017-07-19 22:53:49 UTC

tfw UKIP is the best party prove me wrong you cant

2017-07-19 22:54:04 UTC

UKIP smell terrible.

2017-07-19 22:54:16 UTC

I've been convinced

2017-07-19 22:54:20 UTC

UKIP is shite

2017-07-19 22:54:26 UTC

Literally.

2017-07-19 22:54:50 UTC

Know why they're shite?

2017-07-19 22:55:03 UTC

cuz muh farage is gone

2017-07-19 22:55:03 UTC

They can't wipe their asses properly.

2017-07-19 22:55:06 UTC

because they're bunch of racist, libertarian, banker cuntbags?

2017-07-19 22:55:18 UTC

>ukip
>libertarian

2017-07-19 22:55:22 UTC

not even close

2017-07-19 22:55:25 UTC

sorry

2017-07-19 22:55:27 UTC

i like them

2017-07-19 22:55:32 UTC

but they aint libertarian

2017-07-19 22:55:37 UTC

UKIP is amazing

2017-07-19 22:55:40 UTC

they're closer to fascists

2017-07-19 22:55:45 UTC

Not racist though

2017-07-19 22:55:47 UTC

mosleyists i'd say

2017-07-19 22:55:48 UTC

mmm, economically they're neoliberal

2017-07-19 22:55:53 UTC

Yeah

2017-07-19 22:56:00 UTC

so are Nazbol to an extent

2017-07-19 22:56:03 UTC

also they're definitely racist

2017-07-19 22:56:05 UTC

Not liking muslims doesnt mean racist

2017-07-19 22:56:13 UTC

they don't like Bulgarians either

2017-07-19 22:56:15 UTC

or Romanians

2017-07-19 22:56:19 UTC

thats not a race

2017-07-19 22:56:21 UTC
2017-07-19 22:56:22 UTC

thats a nationality

2017-07-19 22:56:32 UTC

fuck the RA

2017-07-19 22:56:33 UTC

umm, seriously?

2017-07-19 22:56:34 UTC

They dont like poor immigrants leeching off of their system

2017-07-19 22:56:35 UTC

YES

2017-07-19 22:56:37 UTC

Yes*

2017-07-19 22:56:37 UTC

you're going to pull that shit?

2017-07-19 22:56:40 UTC

seriously

2017-07-19 22:56:41 UTC

I am

2017-07-19 22:56:47 UTC

how fucking stupid can you be?

2017-07-19 22:56:47 UTC

Because they are not a race

2017-07-19 22:56:53 UTC

You filthy brits need to keep your hands where they belong.

2017-07-19 22:56:53 UTC

it's an ethnicity, you fucking dumbass

2017-07-19 22:56:57 UTC

that's what racism refers to

2017-07-19 22:57:03 UTC

I'm not stupid. They are not a race as much as you want them to be

2017-07-19 22:57:03 UTC

there's no such thing as human race

2017-07-19 22:57:10 UTC

there is no black race or white race

2017-07-19 22:57:12 UTC

You scots were pussified long ago

2017-07-19 22:57:16 UTC

theres the anglo race

2017-07-19 22:57:19 UTC

or jewish race or aryan race or any of that

2017-07-19 22:57:19 UTC

Racism refers to discrimination on the basis of race

2017-07-19 22:57:21 UTC

But the Irish remain free.

2017-07-19 22:57:21 UTC

because anglos are different

2017-07-19 22:57:23 UTC

it all refers to ethnicity

2017-07-19 22:57:26 UTC

we cant include anglos

2017-07-19 22:57:29 UTC

you're fucking splitting hairs

2017-07-19 22:57:37 UTC

romanians and bulgarians are european

2017-07-19 22:57:43 UTC

what, they are racist to europeans?

2017-07-19 22:57:45 UTC

should I fucking call it ethnicism?

2017-07-19 22:57:51 UTC

>romani-ans
>european

2017-07-19 22:57:56 UTC

how fucking stupid can you be?

2017-07-19 22:58:07 UTC

ad hominem wont get you anywhere

2017-07-19 22:58:13 UTC

that's not ad hominem

2017-07-19 22:58:16 UTC

How can you be racist to a nationality?

2017-07-19 22:58:19 UTC

that's an insult

2017-07-19 22:58:29 UTC

I've argued why you're wrong with logic

2017-07-19 22:58:35 UTC

I'm just insulting you because you're stupid as shit

2017-07-19 22:58:39 UTC

What logic?

2017-07-19 22:58:45 UTC

oh dear

2017-07-19 22:58:46 UTC

I'm not saying my insults are the reason you're wrong

2017-07-19 22:58:54 UTC

What logic have you used?

2017-07-19 22:59:05 UTC

tfw someone mentions racism and it turns to a shitstorm

2017-07-19 22:59:07 UTC

im out

2017-07-19 22:59:12 UTC

That they are racist because they dont want romanians coming into their country?

2017-07-19 22:59:16 UTC

Or bulgarians?

2017-07-19 22:59:21 UTC

What about polish?

2017-07-19 22:59:24 UTC

They're white

2017-07-19 22:59:32 UTC

WhT is this?

2017-07-19 22:59:35 UTC

If I don't want them coming in am I racist for that?

2017-07-19 23:00:09 UTC

If I don't want black people, or asian people coming in

2017-07-19 23:00:13 UTC

Sure, thats racist

2017-07-19 23:00:17 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337368076955680775/huAA0hb_1.jpg

2017-07-19 23:00:21 UTC

LOL

2017-07-19 23:00:32 UTC

there is anti-Slavic racism, there's anti-Polish racism, there's anti-Arab racism, there's anti-Irish racism, there's anti-Italian racism, anti-Jewish racism, etc. etc.

2017-07-19 23:00:48 UTC

No there isn't

2017-07-19 23:00:56 UTC

racism refers to ethnicity, not specifically to races as defined by pseudoscience

2017-07-19 23:00:58 UTC

In my opinion not wanting people in your country *because* of their nationality is racist, but if it just happens that they are then that's not your fault, and if anything the interpretation is racist

2017-07-19 23:01:19 UTC

@Ulstรจr-Scotch Go lick Simon Cowells ass you wannabe Englishman.

2017-07-19 23:01:19 UTC

Nationality is not racist

2017-07-19 23:01:41 UTC

you're literally splitting hairs so you can justify your racism

2017-07-19 23:01:43 UTC

@MLM (TW) I'm a republican

2017-07-19 23:02:00 UTC

It's not racist

2017-07-19 23:02:17 UTC

Wanting your own people have jobs over foreigners is not racist

2017-07-19 23:02:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337368699814019073/Lenin_Cat.jpg

2017-07-19 23:02:46 UTC

Many of the unions in my state are anti-immigration on the basis of 'scabs'. They pretty much allowed our governor to disembowel our unions as bad as Scott Walker did to Wisconsin.

2017-07-19 23:02:54 UTC

If I am a man from Antrim, and people coming in from Waterford are taking people from Antrim's jobs

2017-07-19 23:02:58 UTC

And I dont want that

2017-07-19 23:02:59 UTC

yeah, because UKIP is so for giving British people jobs

2017-07-19 23:03:01 UTC

Am I racist?

2017-07-19 23:03:17 UTC

you're confusing the problems

2017-07-19 23:03:34 UTC

You're arguing denying other white people jobs is racist

2017-07-19 23:03:42 UTC

*Maybe our citizens should have higher priority over non-citizens, who are already have countries to prioritize them*

2017-07-19 23:03:51 UTC

the problem is not foreigners coming in, it's the fact that they're less-paid, that theyre not unionized, etc. etc.

2017-07-19 23:03:52 UTC

hating some one based on race == racist
not wanting immigrants might not be inherently racist, but the language sounds racist.

2017-07-19 23:04:01 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:04:18 UTC

But you're calling it feckin racist

2017-07-19 23:04:20 UTC

if immigrants were paid at the same rate and had the same rights and all, there would be no problem

2017-07-19 23:04:37 UTC

because UKIP doesn't blame capitalism, they blame the foreigners

2017-07-19 23:04:39 UTC

Borders are spooks though

2017-07-19 23:04:41 UTC

They do have those same rights in european countries

2017-07-19 23:04:41 UTC

Not wanting immigrants, bear in mind who are white, to take your jobs

2017-07-19 23:04:44 UTC

they don't blame the companies, they blame the people

2017-07-19 23:04:53 UTC

They simply take lower skill jobs

2017-07-19 23:04:54 UTC

and white or not has nothing to do with it

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is apparently racist

2017-07-19 23:05:18 UTC

you know who is also white?

2017-07-19 23:05:20 UTC

You were calling me "fucking stupid" because I believe it wasn't racist

2017-07-19 23:05:31 UTC

Poland has problems because all of its young people are leaving and not coming back

2017-07-19 23:05:35 UTC

North Indians, Arabs, Iranians, and Afghanis

2017-07-19 23:05:43 UTC

Poland has legitimate concerns because of UK policies

2017-07-19 23:05:48 UTC

Which UKIP would solve

2017-07-19 23:05:53 UTC

I'm not, I don't know the current geopolitical climate of Ireland atm @Ulstรจr-Scotch .

But I can understand that not wanting immigrants based on limited housing/ scabs hurting the job market. That isn't racist.

2017-07-19 23:06:08 UTC

you know why they're often not considered white? because of the economic and colonial history

2017-07-19 23:06:16 UTC

@Deleted User made a good point regarding immigrants needing to unionize, though.

2017-07-19 23:06:29 UTC

Irish people were considered for generations the missing link between Caucasians and Africans

2017-07-19 23:06:31 UTC

ima inviote al

2017-07-19 23:06:34 UTC

Arabs are semites, and North Indians are very mixed

2017-07-19 23:06:39 UTC

and why? because of their colonial history

2017-07-19 23:07:16 UTC

Arash, you called me "fucking stupid" for not wanting immigrants to take local jobs, which is what UKIP supports

2017-07-19 23:07:34 UTC

You said that because I said it was not racist

2017-07-19 23:07:39 UTC

Blaming workers is reactionary. This is basic stuff you don't blame workers you blame the bosses

2017-07-19 23:07:44 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:08:27 UTC

So why am I "fucking stupid"

2017-07-19 23:09:10 UTC

because you don't understand what racism is, you don't understand what the root cause of unemployment and decreased wages is, and you support a party that is against your interests because of reactionary rhetoric

2017-07-19 23:09:26 UTC

I do understand what racism is

2017-07-19 23:09:39 UTC

You make your own definition of racism to fit your agenda

2017-07-19 23:10:28 UTC

You can call it ethnicism or whatever the fuck you want to call it, most people call it racism

2017-07-19 23:10:39 UTC

It's discrimination based off of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:10:57 UTC

but they arent discriminating because of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:11:12 UTC

It goes for any foreigners who take the jobs of working class people in that country

2017-07-19 23:11:27 UTC

They are against mass immigration from any country because it denies citizens of their jobs

2017-07-19 23:11:54 UTC

no, they want to blame the foreigners to make people forget that the real reason is capitalism

2017-07-19 23:13:14 UTC

How are they racist

2017-07-19 23:13:25 UTC

For not wanting outside non-citizens to take the jobs of citizens

2017-07-19 23:13:34 UTC

do you think the situation for workers will get better if you kicked out all the foreigners?

2017-07-19 23:13:44 UTC

>when you want to drink some water, but fuccing nestle bought the whole reserve of Africas clean water

2017-07-19 23:13:50 UTC

do you think companies would pay people more or that working rights would get better?

2017-07-19 23:14:27 UTC

When traditonal british street businesses are replaced by halal donner kebab shops

2017-07-19 23:14:29 UTC

will it help the fight for working rights if we just go and attack our working class comrades because they're from a different country?

2017-07-19 23:14:32 UTC

Then I have a problem

2017-07-19 23:14:46 UTC

For the sake of the dialogue, we're all concerned about the same thing, the working class.

The immigration isn't 'the problem' it's that the jobs will be lost due to the lack of organization the immigrants possess. They're easy scabs. Immigration makes perfect sense to business perspectives.

Why hire union when I can out source?

The symptom of the problem is the job loss, which is in itself, another problem.

2017-07-19 23:15:12 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC

Capitalists love immigrants

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC

Mostly that

2017-07-19 23:15:22 UTC

cheap labor

2017-07-19 23:15:22 UTC

They love them because they work cheap

2017-07-19 23:15:25 UTC

the only way the workers can improve their condition in life is to fight together, with solidarity, against the ruling class

2017-07-19 23:15:40 UTC

^

2017-07-19 23:15:46 UTC

h o w a r e u k i p r a c i s t

2017-07-19 23:16:17 UTC

because they use racist rhetoric, because they blame immigrants for the problems of capitalism, because they use immigrants as scapegoats

2017-07-19 23:16:59 UTC

what racist rhetoric?

2017-07-19 23:17:22 UTC

And not wanting immigrants in your country to work is Anti-Capitalism

2017-07-19 23:17:36 UTC

its basically >hurr durr blacks are wrothless lololol

2017-07-19 23:17:53 UTC

no, socialism is about the international working class

2017-07-19 23:18:19 UTC

to fight together with working class comrades across the world in a common struggle

2017-07-19 23:18:33 UTC

not to be divided by national boundaries against each other

2017-07-19 23:19:05 UTC

Make unionization part of requirements for work visas.

2017-07-19 23:19:15 UTC

then why did socialist germany and the soviet union build a wall in berlin

2017-07-19 23:20:31 UTC

because the economic conditions in West Germany were better due to most of the Eastern Bloc still being destroyed after WWII, plus most of the world and therefore the resources and trade of the world were under Western control

2017-07-19 23:20:49 UTC

So why did they build a wall

2017-07-19 23:20:57 UTC

If socialists were for open borders

2017-07-19 23:21:11 UTC

which created a migration crisis between East and West Germany where East Germany could not survive as many people were leaving for the West, which threatened the socialist project

2017-07-19 23:21:37 UTC

So they kept people in against their will

2017-07-19 23:22:16 UTC

mmm, how is a person's will defined? The Americans are quite good at making propaganda

2017-07-19 23:22:23 UTC

better than anyone else by far

2017-07-19 23:22:35 UTC

So, they kept people in against their wishes of not being in

2017-07-19 23:22:49 UTC

@Ulstรจr-Scotch This is how a real man eats.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/337373748204404736/JPEG_20170719_191754.jpg

2017-07-19 23:23:00 UTC

wtf is that

2017-07-19 23:23:00 UTC

Mashed potato is amazing

2017-07-19 23:23:07 UTC

A bit of gravy over that son

2017-07-19 23:23:08 UTC

mmm

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