Message from @Ulstèr-Scotch

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2017-07-19 23:04:53 UTC  

They simply take lower skill jobs

2017-07-19 23:04:54 UTC  

and white or not has nothing to do with it

2017-07-19 23:04:57 UTC  

is apparently racist

2017-07-19 23:05:18 UTC  

you know who is also white?

2017-07-19 23:05:20 UTC  

You were calling me "fucking stupid" because I believe it wasn't racist

2017-07-19 23:05:31 UTC  

Poland has problems because all of its young people are leaving and not coming back

2017-07-19 23:05:35 UTC  

North Indians, Arabs, Iranians, and Afghanis

2017-07-19 23:05:43 UTC  

Poland has legitimate concerns because of UK policies

2017-07-19 23:05:48 UTC  

Which UKIP would solve

2017-07-19 23:05:53 UTC  

I'm not, I don't know the current geopolitical climate of Ireland atm @Ulstèr-Scotch .

But I can understand that not wanting immigrants based on limited housing/ scabs hurting the job market. That isn't racist.

2017-07-19 23:06:08 UTC  

you know why they're often not considered white? because of the economic and colonial history

2017-07-19 23:06:16 UTC  

@Deleted User made a good point regarding immigrants needing to unionize, though.

2017-07-19 23:06:29 UTC  

Irish people were considered for generations the missing link between Caucasians and Africans

2017-07-19 23:06:31 UTC  

ima inviote al

2017-07-19 23:06:34 UTC  

Arabs are semites, and North Indians are very mixed

2017-07-19 23:06:39 UTC  

and why? because of their colonial history

2017-07-19 23:07:16 UTC  

Arash, you called me "fucking stupid" for not wanting immigrants to take local jobs, which is what UKIP supports

2017-07-19 23:07:34 UTC  

You said that because I said it was not racist

2017-07-19 23:07:39 UTC  

Blaming workers is reactionary. This is basic stuff you don't blame workers you blame the bosses

2017-07-19 23:07:44 UTC  

^

2017-07-19 23:08:27 UTC  

So why am I "fucking stupid"

2017-07-19 23:09:10 UTC  

because you don't understand what racism is, you don't understand what the root cause of unemployment and decreased wages is, and you support a party that is against your interests because of reactionary rhetoric

2017-07-19 23:09:26 UTC  

I do understand what racism is

2017-07-19 23:09:39 UTC  

You make your own definition of racism to fit your agenda

2017-07-19 23:10:28 UTC  

You can call it ethnicism or whatever the fuck you want to call it, most people call it racism

2017-07-19 23:10:39 UTC  

It's discrimination based off of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:10:57 UTC  

but they arent discriminating because of ethnicity

2017-07-19 23:11:12 UTC  

It goes for any foreigners who take the jobs of working class people in that country

2017-07-19 23:11:27 UTC  

They are against mass immigration from any country because it denies citizens of their jobs

2017-07-19 23:11:54 UTC  

no, they want to blame the foreigners to make people forget that the real reason is capitalism

2017-07-19 23:13:14 UTC  

How are they racist

2017-07-19 23:13:25 UTC  

For not wanting outside non-citizens to take the jobs of citizens

2017-07-19 23:13:34 UTC  

do you think the situation for workers will get better if you kicked out all the foreigners?

2017-07-19 23:13:44 UTC  

>when you want to drink some water, but fuccing nestle bought the whole reserve of Africas clean water

2017-07-19 23:13:50 UTC  

do you think companies would pay people more or that working rights would get better?

2017-07-19 23:14:27 UTC  

When traditonal british street businesses are replaced by halal donner kebab shops

2017-07-19 23:14:29 UTC  

will it help the fight for working rights if we just go and attack our working class comrades because they're from a different country?

2017-07-19 23:14:32 UTC  

Then I have a problem

2017-07-19 23:14:46 UTC  

For the sake of the dialogue, we're all concerned about the same thing, the working class.

The immigration isn't 'the problem' it's that the jobs will be lost due to the lack of organization the immigrants possess. They're easy scabs. Immigration makes perfect sense to business perspectives.

Why hire union when I can out source?

The symptom of the problem is the job loss, which is in itself, another problem.

2017-07-19 23:15:12 UTC  

^

2017-07-19 23:15:14 UTC  

Capitalists love immigrants