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If I speak jew a thousand times
Economics will go away
Yes yes, well it is a foregone conclusion that if you were going to be a high up official in the Soviet government you had to collaborate with Jewish intellectuals and administrators.
See?
They were the de facto ruling class.
Iron logic
I can see that you simply don't want to discuss this.
It's da joos
I wonder why...
Because you don't provide sources or proof
Just repeat the Jews or jewish
Of course I don't have patience for that
I'm not a pol fag
If you want to say jew every single damn phrase and every single damn statement just go for one of your circlejerks
Yeah
Because whether @comuna redpill realises it he is more predisposed to communism because of his ethnic interest.
LMAO
I'm poor and Brazilian
I'm no George Soros
The thing is not every single jew is a nation leader
In fact the majority are proletarians
Communism isn't ethnic based
It deceives with that lie in theory, but in practice it is dispelled.
Plus "members of the bolshevik central government" can be interpreted in many ways
The politburo
The sovnarkom
The supreme soviet
The party comitee
@Deleted User oh a oppressed minority in Russia was politically active
Especially after several pogroms
Geez those jews
What a damn surprise
They can't even get murdered and stay quiet
Without them Bolshevism as we know it would have never taken root in Russia.
You would be surprised as it would
But Jewish cadres helped a lot
It would be replaced by some other populist movement, but that a big "if" in the first place. The Jews have had a long history in Europe, and not for the better.
Because they suffered heavy oppression
Lmao
Just keep saying the jews
All the problems will go away
Dont look at your working rights too
Oh and the working class in other nations is not your problem
No, NO GOY! DON'T CALL ATTENTION TO US! We have your best interests at heart!
Not all Jews of course
But it doesn't boil down to race
Stupid goy, read some Marxist literature.
Yep
It would make some good for you
Get that bourgeois propaganda out of your head
Plus psych Hitler was a rotschild
"bourgeois propaganda" - this is the thing with you commies and capitalists, you are always stuck in this false paradigm of left and right.
Hahahaha
To the left the Third Position is capitalism, to the right it's Communism.
You simply refuse to comprehend it.
As if the bourgeoisie only stayed in the right
You are stupid as hell mate
You think that you are above those questions
hmmm that's what people usually say when they have nothing constructive to say ๐ค
When you are just a cheap ass bourgeois apologist
The bourgeoisie has several movements on the left
Dengism
Social democracy
Mutualism
And so on
And your ideology fits their narrative too
Your discourse is a well known one
Used for centuries to deviate the proletariat from their road to power
Well for a few hundred years to be more exact
Plus you think your statements were constructive and not cheap propaganda I have heard before?
That's quite an ego we have here
Specially if put in front with your actual capacity of quoting properly
Or as you would say
Jewish trickery
You said you were part Jewish, I'm suspecting that's at least half by now. Otherwise you would not be so dedicatedly rhetorical and duplicitous.
LMAO
as if I need to be from one race to despise racism against it
I'm not you
lol you write a wall of shit and you expect me to counter every single thing you asserted,
Of course I do
I'm arguing
I'm dedicated rethorically because it's a part of being a communist
And I'm bad at it
A debate only really goes somewhere if it's on first principles and one thing at a time, otherwise there is a great chance for the dialogue to be disingenuous and mocking in nature as we see here.
Even if I didn't had jew ancestry I would argue the same way
i doubt it
@Deleted User mate you are just calling me a jew several times
I have to mock you
@Deleted User many non Jews do that
Stalin advocated death penalty for anti semites
Lmao
I agree with comuna, does that mean I have hidden jewish ancestry?
Here he goes
you are only using laughter to placate yourself from introspection.
Man you talk as your discourse was the last biscuit in the package
I heard that so many times
It's not deep or insight inducting
It's cheap and rotten propaganda
I have the right as a human being to laugh at that
And for the lack of introspection blame your repetitive shitty writing
I mean at least in mein kampf the small moustache manlet had a bit of charisma
@Deleted User also good goy take a shekel
*rubs hands sneakily*
Capitalism and Communism = Two sides of the same coin
It also confuses association with causation, which fuels the reliance on conspiracy.
@Deleted User it's all the Jews
Don't look at your paycheck
And if you have debt it's because of the Jews anyway
both capitalism and communism are Jewish I'm so smart
Apparently, the Third Position does not have a 'ruling elite'.
I'm totally not a capital apologist
@Deleted User they have their beloved national bourgeoisie
If they don't have the big nose it's ok
Nah too scientific
Let's drawn on romantism
trump supporters theme song
yeah
i was aslo in operation blueism's stream
imagine liking the color green better than red in china and having the police show up to your door and arrest you
imagine being an ethnic minority in china and being imprisoned for doing nothing
i know "china isn't communist" but this kind of shit isn't ok
Spoiled millenial liberals probably dont care
Hi
true
Wut
And which human rights violations
Eh nah
Thatโs the government not the people
Government is more dangerous
@Brickiest Brick I hate china
They are the us with a red banner
Tiny brain, Democrats are shitlibs lmao they're not left
Yeah
Center right to right
>commies
>having brain
commies dont do brain stuff
haha omega funny
I thought it was
@ApplicationBot I like her. Wouldnt say shes 100% right of course but smart and right at alot
she was just a rip off and weird nietzsche with some stirner mixed in
claiming romantism and objectivism at the same time lmao
Nietzsche and stirner mixed in sounds good
sounds idealist as hell
Humans arent naturally realists and materialists. JP has explained this pretty well.
I like idealism
it makes Art mean something
materialism is inherently human not the other way around
I wouldnt say Nietzsche or stiner is idealist though
its how humans perceive reality
art means something
the aesthetic represantation of the social sein and dasein
Not at all, if that was the case we wouldn't have gods for a very good majority of our pasts
you have to beare in mind that cult value can have material reasons
Sein and dasein?
They can but they're not 100% materialist
being and coming-into-being at a more or less bad translation
not in ther appearence
religion came as a institution to regulate social behaviour
and after some time restricted pratices such as canibalism and poligamy
And they believed in magical dieties still
because of property relations
they did because they couldnt understand or show the real process because alienation is inherent to cult value
we need to look deeper than the appearence to get to the religious real content
Christians arent being alienated
they are in many ways
Such as?
religion is inherent alieantion
such as lets say
the passages about sodom and gomorrah
Give an example for the average christian
God is omnipotent and oniscient while being all knowning
thats logically impossible
Right but they believe it because they dont think it is
while being "good"
@Mr. X exactly
alienation
How's that alienation?
they are alienated from the logical fallacy that this represents
Lacking knowledge isnt alienation
as even questioning is looked like a "bad attitude" in religion
@Mr. X it can be if its institutionalized
Used to for sure, not as much now though
and the church is a institution as long as i know
They werent controlling the lack of knowledge
it was the same as thinking the earth was not in the centre of the universe
they simply didnt know
in the religious field? for many they do
I highly doubt that now
many religious cadres have a good enough education to know those things
not the followers of the faith though
How do you think Atheism became more and more of a thing out of christianity?
and thats where alienation comes in
because capitalism needs at least a partial dismantling of those institutions
as the bible has a lot of feudal ideology
such as separatism on the roman empire and so on
So how would atheism benefit capitalism?
not necessarily atheism
but restricted religion
Such as?
and specially stronger on the masses
like people not using religion in science
as a method
Religion in science? What religious method has been used in science?
or taking religion as a coexhistent being with reason
In places in the west?
@Mr. X feudal times
Oh
thomas aquinas
and so on
many of the feudal technicians and specialists came from the clergy
and their visions were essentialy linked to religion
As they were the most educated in such fields right?
yep as the clergy had a important role on maintaining the feudal status quo
with concepts such as divine right
that were when not destroyed modified
such as in the french revolution
How would capitalism be the cause of atheism being more popular exactly though?
because in its essence capitalism is atheistic lets say
its about the commodities and not the institutions around it
but they have a need for maintaining those institutions with some restrictions
in order to contain conscience specially on the masses
and in many pseudo intelectual areas
and as capitalism expands the contradictions between the necessities of capital and those institutions grow larger
So the scientific method became better due to capitalism aswell as the education as time past?
Hence why people started being atheists?
in relation to feudalism? a billion times better
but atheism can be contained too
for example positivism
they essentially are for the most atheists
but they are cointaned in the small crate of formal logic
And what is positivism exactly?
its the theory created by theorists such as comte and durkheim
What's the theory?
its basically based on positive affirmations
Im not familiar with Comte or Durkheim
or formal logic
such as
all red crayons are red
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