Nietzsche and stirner mixed in sounds good

sounds idealist as hell

Humans arent naturally realists and materialists. JP has explained this pretty well.

I like idealism

it makes Art mean something

materialism is inherently human not the other way around

I wouldnt say Nietzsche or stiner is idealist though

its how humans perceive reality

art means something

the aesthetic represantation of the social sein and dasein

Not at all, if that was the case we wouldn't have gods for a very good majority of our pasts

you have to beare in mind that cult value can have material reasons

Sein and dasein?

They can but they're not 100% materialist

being and coming-into-being at a more or less bad translation

not in ther appearence

religion came as a institution to regulate social behaviour

and after some time restricted pratices such as canibalism and poligamy

And they believed in magical dieties still

because of property relations

they did because they couldnt understand or show the real process because alienation is inherent to cult value

we need to look deeper than the appearence to get to the religious real content

Christians arent being alienated

they are in many ways

Such as?

religion is inherent alieantion

such as lets say

the passages about sodom and gomorrah

Give an example for the average christian

God is omnipotent and oniscient while being all knowning

thats logically impossible

Right but they believe it because they dont think it is

while being "good"

@Mr. X exactly

alienation

How's that alienation?

they are alienated from the logical fallacy that this represents

Lacking knowledge isnt alienation

as even questioning is looked like a "bad attitude" in religion

@Mr. X it can be if its institutionalized

Used to for sure, not as much now though