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2018-04-24 14:07:46 UTC

The restrictions are much lighter now than a while ago, but yes, they’re still there.

2018-04-24 14:08:28 UTC

Christianity is one of the PRC’s five government-protected religions, however.

2018-04-24 14:09:12 UTC

Buddhism, Taoism, Islam and something else.

2018-04-24 14:09:17 UTC

Don’t remember.

2018-04-24 14:10:46 UTC

China has a high Islamic population in its Xinjiang Autonomous Region, in the West.

2018-04-24 14:11:08 UTC

It’s home to the Uyghurs, a primarily Turkic people.

2018-04-24 14:11:39 UTC

It’s mostly Eurasian steppe and desert.

2018-04-24 14:11:50 UTC

Not too many people live out there.

2018-04-24 14:13:15 UTC

It’s similar to Tibet, in that there’s been a lot of separatist sentiment in the area because it’s ethnic people and culture are very different to the ruling Han Chinese.

2018-04-24 14:13:34 UTC

Thus the reason it gets a lot of autonomy.

2018-04-24 14:16:02 UTC

However, while Islam itself is a gov’t-protected religion, Native Islamic Uyghurs in Xinjiang so face a lot of persecution by the non-Uyghurs living there.

2018-04-24 14:17:51 UTC

Mainly because they’ve been a pain in the PRC’s side since the late 40’s when they annexed the then independent Xinjiang warlord state, the last warlord state of the Chinese Civil War to be reintegrated into a unified China.

2018-04-24 14:20:44 UTC

There are still very Christian countries in the West that cling onto the religion quite firmly, most of them being Mediterranean counties like Italy, Spain and Greece, along with the vast majority of Latin American states as well.

2018-04-24 14:22:25 UTC

America’s a mixed bag. Atheism is popular in large metropolitan areas while religion holds strong in the countryside, very similarly to the Democrat/Republican divide.

2018-04-24 14:22:35 UTC

In the UK, it’s just dying everywhere.

2018-04-24 14:26:22 UTC

Yep.

2018-04-24 14:26:24 UTC

Islam.

2018-04-24 14:27:00 UTC

I mean, I’m an atheist myself, but I just find it... sad, to say the least.

2018-04-24 14:27:13 UTC

It’s the tradition of the West we’re losing.

2018-04-24 14:28:54 UTC

I probably wouldn’t care if the entire world abandoned religion, but abandoning Christianity in the west just leaves other religions with the opportunity to take its place.

2018-04-24 14:29:23 UTC

Like the aforementioned Islam.

2018-04-24 14:30:06 UTC

That’s why so many are still religious, yeah.

2018-04-24 14:31:33 UTC

What I find even more frustrating is that people here in the west claim that they’re “against all religion”, but only beat up on Christianity because they don’t want to hurt some poor Arab or Indian’s feelings.

2018-04-24 14:32:22 UTC

I’m indifferent.

2018-04-24 14:34:02 UTC

There’s also the feminists that campaign for the women’s rights that they already have here in the West while the Middle East isn’t even touched despite the fuckload of human rights violations against woman they have there.

2018-04-24 14:35:32 UTC

It’s almost sickening how hypocritical we are.

2018-04-24 14:38:14 UTC

“muh crusades, muh kkk, muh westboro baptist church”

2018-04-24 14:38:28 UTC

The crusades part especially pisses me off.

2018-04-24 14:39:03 UTC

Ex

2018-04-24 14:39:10 UTC

Fucking

2018-04-24 14:39:17 UTC

actly

2018-04-24 14:40:02 UTC

On top of that, most people don’t even know shit about the Crusades other than “Christians murdered a bunch of poor Arabs”.

2018-04-24 14:40:18 UTC

Heeeeell no.

2018-04-24 14:40:29 UTC

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2018-04-24 14:41:15 UTC

The crusades were wars of reconquest, retaliatory invasions after hundreds of years of Islamic aggression

2018-04-24 14:41:30 UTC

The 4th Crusade, as much as it makes my inner Greek salty as hell, wasn’t even against Islamic powers.

2018-04-24 14:41:57 UTC

? Yes it was

2018-04-24 14:42:15 UTC

It escalated into a war against the Byzantines, the head of the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is fucking Christian.

2018-04-24 14:42:15 UTC

It changed partway through

2018-04-24 14:42:22 UTC

It did, yeah.

2018-04-24 14:42:49 UTC

But it was a call against Islamic aggression by the Pope

2018-04-24 14:43:12 UTC

Don't know enough about it to know why they went to Byzantium though

2018-04-24 14:44:16 UTC

By the orders of the Pope it was, however the Venetians steered it into a land grab by dropping the Crusaders off the coast of Croatia and later Constantinople, the latter without giving the Crusaders a ride to anywhere else.

2018-04-24 14:45:09 UTC

Therefore the Crusaders pillaged the shit out of Constantinople, effectively killing off the Byzantines and leaving the door wide open for the Ottomans to take over 200 years later.

2018-04-24 14:46:28 UTC

And even then, the main theater of the Crusades wasn’t the Levant and Anatolia all the time.

2018-04-24 14:46:50 UTC

The Reconquista and the multiple Baltic Crusades are a good example of that.

2018-04-24 14:49:22 UTC

The Baltic Crusades even being about converting pagans on the South coast of the Baltic Sea, not about Islam.

2018-04-24 14:56:16 UTC

Just sounds like another tragedy of history. I don't think anyone in the Anglosphere talks about the Northern Crusades (or the Reconquista really), so don't mind so much about people getting them wrong

2018-04-24 15:01:46 UTC

Yeah, really does suck.

2018-04-24 15:04:12 UTC

Such shallow nonsense

2018-04-24 15:04:15 UTC

Blablabla history

2018-04-24 15:04:36 UTC

Why am I in this group?

2018-04-24 15:04:41 UTC

Asking for a friend.

2018-04-24 15:04:48 UTC

No clue, pal.

2018-04-24 15:05:07 UTC

Is firefly one of your mods or something?

2018-04-24 15:05:38 UTC

Dunno.

2018-04-24 15:07:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/438355350622568450/image.jpg

2018-04-24 15:14:53 UTC

Mr E talking to herself

2018-04-24 15:14:56 UTC

Yikes

2018-04-24 15:18:33 UTC

^obviously the real one guys totally lmao

2018-04-24 15:26:11 UTC

By girl 😚 😚 😍

2018-04-24 15:26:23 UTC

Let me tap that ass first

2018-04-24 15:50:52 UTC

Sure

2018-04-24 15:55:13 UTC

What's some good Leftist books to read and videos to watch?

2018-04-24 15:55:50 UTC

Why?

2018-04-24 15:56:47 UTC

Cool. Thanks for the help.

2018-04-24 16:09:42 UTC

Ech

2018-04-24 16:29:23 UTC

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2018-04-24 16:30:46 UTC

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2018-04-24 16:47:01 UTC

**Hey im walkin’ here!!**

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2018-04-24 16:57:34 UTC

*southern laughter* Y’all mean the Chaos Emeralds?

2018-04-24 16:57:36 UTC

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2018-04-24 17:45:42 UTC

@K▲ISER **Share the wealth**

2018-04-24 17:46:13 UTC

@Deleted User **E v e r y m a n a k i n g**

2018-04-24 18:32:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/438406799444672512/STALIN.jpg

2018-04-24 18:40:52 UTC

I do not believe communism is the superior economic and/or political theory.

2018-04-24 18:58:33 UTC

Honestly anyone that believes any ideology in it's current, undeveloped stage is an idiot.

2018-04-24 19:31:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/438421727324798997/image.png

2018-04-24 19:31:42 UTC

What will dRUMPf flip-flop on this time?

2018-04-24 19:34:10 UTC

hmmmmmmmmmm

2018-04-24 19:34:27 UTC

after careful consideration I think this might be edited

2018-04-24 19:34:33 UTC

just a little bit

2018-04-24 19:55:21 UTC

@DA GOMMIE JOO Fake news libtard.

2018-04-24 19:58:46 UTC

oh shit I got owned epic style

2018-04-24 20:03:52 UTC

@Mr. X good to see you are still imitating me

2018-04-24 20:04:13 UTC

you just pinged yourself

2018-04-24 20:04:31 UTC

Fuck

2018-04-24 20:04:32 UTC

Fuck

2018-04-24 20:04:33 UTC

Fuck

2018-04-24 20:04:38 UTC

Fucking poser

2018-04-24 20:04:50 UTC

@Mr. X kill yourself

2018-04-24 20:05:02 UTC

Autist piece of shit

2018-04-24 20:05:08 UTC

Commie trash

2018-04-24 20:08:01 UTC

do you need help?

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2018-04-24 20:14:55 UTC

I mean the faker

2018-04-24 20:38:35 UTC

@supermodel ruben @Mr. X So which is the real one?

2018-04-24 20:46:32 UTC

Still no excuse for not thinking "How should we adapt our ideology to deal with X problem"

2018-04-24 20:49:21 UTC

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2018-04-24 20:51:05 UTC

Almost every communist is still working off of communist theory for 1920s and the pre-Universal Sufferage capitolist system, Not the current system.

2018-04-24 20:53:37 UTC

@nigel the proud semite#9400 oh shit I got owned epic style

2018-04-24 20:54:06 UTC

note the irony in a capitalist complaining about how communists use dated theory

2018-04-24 20:56:45 UTC

"competition is good"
keep telling yourself that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Wars

2018-04-24 20:58:20 UTC

"the coal wars were a series of armed labor conflicts"

2018-04-24 20:58:37 UTC

"Mining families lived under the terror of Baldwin-Felts detective agents who were professional strikebreakers under the hire of coal operators. During that dispute, agents drove a heavily armored train through a tent colony at night, opening fire on women, men, and children with a machine gun."

2018-04-24 20:58:56 UTC

"professional strike breakers"
"drove an armored train through a tent colony"

2018-04-24 20:59:21 UTC

capitalism in its purest form

2018-04-24 20:59:27 UTC

done in the name of profit

2018-04-24 20:59:46 UTC

oh you wanna play that game

2018-04-24 20:59:58 UTC

bengali famines in british india resulted in over 100 million deaths

2018-04-24 21:00:12 UTC

3 million people died in anti-communist purges in indonesia in just 4 years

2018-04-24 21:00:24 UTC

the native american genocide's lowest estimate is 50 million deaths

2018-04-24 21:00:57 UTC

world war 1 had at least 16 million casualties

2018-04-24 21:01:32 UTC

the belgian congo saw 10 million killed in a genocide

2018-04-24 21:01:48 UTC

I'd like to point out that the congo was ONE MAN'S PRIVATE PROPERTY

2018-04-24 21:02:08 UTC

deaths directly caused by property rights

2018-04-24 21:02:11 UTC

capitalism

2018-04-24 21:02:23 UTC

and then there's the potato famine

2018-04-24 21:02:44 UTC

belgian congo was in 1908

2018-04-24 21:03:08 UTC

"hey guize my propaganda is correct but actual facts are stupid"

2018-04-24 21:03:36 UTC

the 100 million number came from the black book of communism
it has exactly 0 basis in reality

2018-04-24 21:04:05 UTC

seriously I read the black book of communism

2018-04-24 21:04:14 UTC

it has no sources in it whatsoever

2018-04-24 21:04:18 UTC

they just made shit up

2018-04-24 21:04:44 UTC

you haven't even read the book
I read the book and it had no primary evidence in it

2018-04-24 21:05:00 UTC

it just throws shitty claims around

2018-04-24 21:05:11 UTC

because you haven't read it

2018-04-24 21:05:46 UTC

you can't speak about a book you haven't even heard of

2018-04-24 21:06:04 UTC

yes

2018-04-24 21:06:25 UTC

because a fucking drought isn't communism's fault

2018-04-24 21:06:28 UTC

and besides

2018-04-24 21:06:34 UTC

I'm a trotskyist
I don't support stalin

2018-04-24 21:07:00 UTC

even if stalin has killed 100 gorillion people, that doesn't affect me because I DON'T SUPPORT STALIN

2018-04-24 21:07:07 UTC

listen to me

2018-04-24 21:07:31 UTC

such as?

2018-04-24 21:07:46 UTC

I don't support mao either

2018-04-24 21:07:52 UTC

I'm a damn trotskyist

2018-04-24 21:08:06 UTC

MLs hate people like me

2018-04-24 21:08:17 UTC

nope

2018-04-24 21:08:20 UTC

he's not even communist

2018-04-24 21:08:22 UTC

he's juche

2018-04-24 21:08:44 UTC

pol pot was overthrown by the actual communists (vietcong)

2018-04-24 21:09:09 UTC

no

2018-04-24 21:09:14 UTC

actually learn about what juche is

2018-04-24 21:09:25 UTC

and the songun policy

2018-04-24 21:09:39 UTC

juche was founded by kim il sung

2018-04-24 21:09:56 UTC

just so I can see what you know, define communism for me

2018-04-24 21:10:04 UTC

describe what a communist society looks like

2018-04-24 21:11:02 UTC

okay

2018-04-24 21:11:07 UTC

what does a communist economy look like?

2018-04-24 21:11:51 UTC

looks to me like you're projecting

2018-04-24 21:12:28 UTC

"rather shit for the working class but good for the rich government"
literally why people hate capitalism

2018-04-24 21:12:38 UTC

oh really

2018-04-24 21:12:45 UTC

is there a billboard by your house?

2018-04-24 21:13:02 UTC

okay

2018-04-24 21:13:12 UTC

well my point is that advertisements are propaganda

2018-04-24 21:13:16 UTC

I mean think about it

2018-04-24 21:13:34 UTC

seriously

2018-04-24 21:13:47 UTC

the term PR was invented because the word "propaganda" was too negative

2018-04-24 21:13:54 UTC

I'm not making this up I swear

2018-04-24 21:14:07 UTC

they still use the techniques

2018-04-24 21:22:02 UTC

> I haven't read this yet but I think it supports my claim.

2018-04-24 21:22:14 UTC

@Mr. X No, that's not at all what it's like.

2018-04-24 21:22:49 UTC

No, it isn't. That's an absurd analogy. You don't know how capitalism functions though so I can understand why you would believe that.

2018-04-24 21:23:49 UTC

@Mr. X No, you are not a member of the capitalist class. Lel

2018-04-24 21:24:05 UTC

No, you aren't.

2018-04-24 21:24:29 UTC

This is you.

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2018-04-24 21:24:57 UTC

Stay ignorant.

2018-04-24 21:25:40 UTC

What a moron.

2018-04-24 21:27:13 UTC

If you knew anything about capitalism, you'd realize that the first three are capitalist apologists. Two economists from the Austrian School and one Neoclassical economist from the Chicago School. Keep reading those comics in mommy's basement and pretending like you know what capitalism is. Turd

2018-04-24 21:27:56 UTC

You should stay off the political servers and go to the Minecraft server you pleb.

2018-04-24 21:28:37 UTC

Leave the political discussion to the adults that have actually read about the shit they speak of.

2018-04-24 21:29:46 UTC

Probably because you posted hentai you cretinous basement-dwelling ignoramus.

2018-04-24 21:30:46 UTC

You're a jack-off-all-cocks pretending to be a jack-of-all-trades.

2018-04-24 21:31:45 UTC

> pussy commie

Says the idiotic liberal.

2018-04-24 21:32:48 UTC

They're full of meaning, which is why you'll tighten the belt around your neck a little tighter later whenever you decide to pleasure your inchworm to hardcore anime porn.

2018-04-24 21:33:52 UTC

He's so clueless about socioeconomic theory that he genuinely believes he isn't a liberal. Lel

2018-04-24 21:34:16 UTC

He probably doesn't even know that there are various kinds of liberals.

2018-04-24 21:34:40 UTC

Yeah, pretty sure you're a CLASSICAL LIBERAL. And an unread one at that.

2018-04-24 21:35:22 UTC

Oh really? So you don't support the free market?

2018-04-24 21:35:56 UTC

You're not in favor of civil liberties under the rule of law?

2018-04-24 21:36:43 UTC

You don't understand capitalism. Or philosophy. Or world history. Or anything outside of the comfort of cognitive dissonance land.

2018-04-24 21:38:07 UTC

You didn't know who Adam Smith was. You also claimed that pro-capitalist economists from the Austrian and Chicago schools were "trash" even though you claim to be in favor of free-market capitalism. You're a walking contradiction. You know nothing about the system in which we live. You are a buffoon of the highest order.

2018-04-24 21:40:30 UTC

They are pro-capitalist economists, as I've said before. The fact that you didn't know as much is a major red flag. You're also a fool for not wanting to read Marx because he "attacks capitalism". His critique of the capitalist mode of production is rock-solid even today. Again, you're just a fool with a serious case of cognitive bias.

2018-04-24 21:43:20 UTC

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2018-04-24 21:43:39 UTC

Which book? He has multiple books, not all of which deal with a scientific analysis of capitalism. He was much more than a political economist. And there are three volumes of Das Kapital, I highly doubt you would make it past the first chapter of the first one. Your ad hitlerum merely exposes you as the weak and irrational thinker you are.

2018-04-24 21:45:02 UTC

And Marx was a master of the classics, this is made evident throughout his writings, which happen to be very poetic at times. The entertainment value is there if you can be bothered to challenge your pre-conceived notions that aren't even predicated upon a proper understanding of the side you claim to be on.

2018-04-24 21:46:24 UTC

Engels disliked the Irish? Yeah, you really are an imbecilic little turd. Both Marx and Engels supported the struggle for Irish independence.

2018-04-24 21:46:41 UTC

Engels also fell in love with an irishwoman.

2018-04-24 21:46:44 UTC

Fucking moron

2018-04-24 21:47:01 UTC

Really? How about you provide me with a source for your claim.

2018-04-24 21:48:06 UTC

And Engels never got married. He was strongly against the very institution of marriage.

2018-04-24 21:48:34 UTC

> 3 Irish wives

Lel

2018-04-24 21:48:54 UTC

Lol

2018-04-24 21:49:45 UTC

No, he didn't. Again, he was NEVER married. He was partnered with Mary and Lizzie Burns.

2018-04-24 21:51:48 UTC

http://www.theirishstory.com/authors/john-dorney/#.Wt-mzZdG2Uk
the only person on that website is heavily biased and has never written a single book about marx

2018-04-24 21:52:42 UTC

I read about half before concluding that it was pure tripe.

2018-04-24 21:52:49 UTC

yeah but somebody who doesn't know anything about marx or engels might not be the best source for marx and engels

2018-04-24 21:53:30 UTC

the IRA had a split over this actually

2018-04-24 21:53:58 UTC

the provisionals weren't communist
however, the officials were often called the "red IRA" due to their marxism

2018-04-24 21:54:12 UTC

the officials split further into the INLA and RIRA

2018-04-24 21:54:23 UTC

the INLA was much more open about their socialism

2018-04-24 21:54:34 UTC

and the RIRA became the TIRA IIRC

2018-04-24 21:55:08 UTC

(IIRC isn't an IRA group)

2018-04-24 21:55:22 UTC

the PIRA was just irish nationalist
they were never left-wing

2018-04-24 21:56:13 UTC

if I recall correctly

2018-04-24 21:56:30 UTC

and the PIRA split away from the OIRA specifically because they WEREN'T left wing

2018-04-24 21:56:42 UTC

No one does

2018-04-24 21:56:44 UTC

Only do so

2018-04-24 21:56:52 UTC

So people are forced to use it in response

2018-04-24 21:56:58 UTC

Because you are mentally challenged

2018-04-24 21:57:12 UTC

Yeah, the OIRA was Marxist.

2018-04-24 21:57:32 UTC

I just said that they split off because they weren't left-wing

2018-04-24 21:58:04 UTC

I literally just said that they weren't

2018-04-24 21:58:09 UTC

you're not reading what I'm posting

2018-04-24 21:58:24 UTC

I literally just explained why they weren't

2018-04-24 21:58:30 UTC

<:troll:312064734113431553>

2018-04-24 21:59:40 UTC

These were the Marxists.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/438459037382606858/IRA-Mobile-Patrol-197204170173b.jpg

2018-04-24 22:00:13 UTC

"wikisource - the free online library"

2018-04-24 22:00:20 UTC

the wiki page literally cites itself

2018-04-24 22:00:30 UTC

look at the citation given for the left-wing nationalism

2018-04-24 22:00:42 UTC

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2018-04-24 22:00:51 UTC

it's citing itself

2018-04-24 22:01:04 UTC

You couldn't take these comrades on.

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2018-04-24 22:01:34 UTC

the PIRA constitution never uses the phrase "left wing"

2018-04-24 22:02:11 UTC

they never use the term "socialism" either

2018-04-24 22:02:17 UTC

they aren't left wing

2018-04-24 22:02:44 UTC

I just read the constitution (it's not very long)

2018-04-24 22:02:55 UTC

one mention counts as "left wing" now

2018-04-24 22:03:22 UTC

they state that they support left wing groups but they themselves aren't left wing

2018-04-24 22:03:55 UTC

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2018-04-24 22:04:11 UTC

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2018-04-24 22:04:38 UTC

dignitas yourself

2018-04-24 22:05:04 UTC

Mr E is a liberal

2018-04-24 22:05:07 UTC

fight me

2018-04-24 22:05:17 UTC

mr e is a liberal
change my mind

2018-04-24 22:05:26 UTC

You can be on the right side of history, or continue being a cuck. Your choice. @vogeL_

2018-04-24 22:06:53 UTC

LIBERAL ALERT
*klaxon*

2018-04-24 22:07:01 UTC

WOOP

2018-04-24 22:07:04 UTC

WOOP

2018-04-24 22:08:03 UTC

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2018-04-24 22:08:55 UTC

e are you an infinite sum

2018-04-24 22:09:02 UTC

because you're fucking annoying to work with

2018-04-24 22:12:30 UTC

Sounds like Shitler.

2018-04-24 22:13:06 UTC

Adolphin Shitler

2018-04-24 22:13:41 UTC

Lel

2018-04-24 22:27:20 UTC

What

2018-04-24 22:32:28 UTC

Your free speech is gone!! @Mr. X

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