Message from @K▲ISER

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2018-04-24 14:09:17 UTC  

Don’t remember.

2018-04-24 14:10:46 UTC  

China has a high Islamic population in its Xinjiang Autonomous Region, in the West.

2018-04-24 14:11:08 UTC  

It’s home to the Uyghurs, a primarily Turkic people.

2018-04-24 14:11:39 UTC  

It’s mostly Eurasian steppe and desert.

2018-04-24 14:11:50 UTC  

Not too many people live out there.

2018-04-24 14:13:15 UTC  

It’s similar to Tibet, in that there’s been a lot of separatist sentiment in the area because it’s ethnic people and culture are very different to the ruling Han Chinese.

2018-04-24 14:13:34 UTC  

Thus the reason it gets a lot of autonomy.

2018-04-24 14:16:02 UTC  

However, while Islam itself is a gov’t-protected religion, Native Islamic Uyghurs in Xinjiang so face a lot of persecution by the non-Uyghurs living there.

2018-04-24 14:17:51 UTC  

Mainly because they’ve been a pain in the PRC’s side since the late 40’s when they annexed the then independent Xinjiang warlord state, the last warlord state of the Chinese Civil War to be reintegrated into a unified China.

2018-04-24 14:20:44 UTC  

There are still very Christian countries in the West that cling onto the religion quite firmly, most of them being Mediterranean counties like Italy, Spain and Greece, along with the vast majority of Latin American states as well.

2018-04-24 14:22:25 UTC  

America’s a mixed bag. Atheism is popular in large metropolitan areas while religion holds strong in the countryside, very similarly to the Democrat/Republican divide.

2018-04-24 14:22:35 UTC  

In the UK, it’s just dying everywhere.

2018-04-24 14:26:22 UTC  

Yep.

2018-04-24 14:26:24 UTC  

Islam.

2018-04-24 14:27:00 UTC  

I mean, I’m an atheist myself, but I just find it... sad, to say the least.

2018-04-24 14:27:13 UTC  

It’s the tradition of the West we’re losing.

2018-04-24 14:28:54 UTC  

I probably wouldn’t care if the entire world abandoned religion, but abandoning Christianity in the west just leaves other religions with the opportunity to take its place.

2018-04-24 14:29:23 UTC  

Like the aforementioned Islam.

2018-04-24 14:30:06 UTC  

That’s why so many are still religious, yeah.

2018-04-24 14:31:33 UTC  

What I find even more frustrating is that people here in the west claim that they’re “against all religion”, but only beat up on Christianity because they don’t want to hurt some poor Arab or Indian’s feelings.

2018-04-24 14:32:22 UTC  

I’m indifferent.

2018-04-24 14:34:02 UTC  

There’s also the feminists that campaign for the women’s rights that they already have here in the West while the Middle East isn’t even touched despite the fuckload of human rights violations against woman they have there.

2018-04-24 14:35:32 UTC  

It’s almost sickening how hypocritical we are.

2018-04-24 14:38:14 UTC  

“muh crusades, muh kkk, muh westboro baptist church”

2018-04-24 14:38:28 UTC  

The crusades part especially pisses me off.

2018-04-24 14:39:03 UTC  

Ex

2018-04-24 14:39:10 UTC  

Fucking

2018-04-24 14:39:17 UTC  

actly

2018-04-24 14:40:02 UTC  

On top of that, most people don’t even know shit about the Crusades other than “Christians murdered a bunch of poor Arabs”.

2018-04-24 14:40:18 UTC  

Heeeeell no.

2018-04-24 14:40:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/438348511436734484/31265560_183122055658212_1187098745235138007_n.png

2018-04-24 14:41:15 UTC  

The crusades were wars of reconquest, retaliatory invasions after hundreds of years of Islamic aggression

2018-04-24 14:41:30 UTC  

The 4th Crusade, as much as it makes my inner Greek salty as hell, wasn’t even against Islamic powers.

2018-04-24 14:41:57 UTC  

? Yes it was

2018-04-24 14:42:15 UTC  

It escalated into a war against the Byzantines, the head of the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is fucking Christian.

2018-04-24 14:42:15 UTC  

It changed partway through

2018-04-24 14:42:22 UTC  

It did, yeah.

2018-04-24 14:42:49 UTC  

But it was a call against Islamic aggression by the Pope

2018-04-24 14:43:12 UTC  

Don't know enough about it to know why they went to Byzantium though

2018-04-24 14:44:16 UTC  

By the orders of the Pope it was, however the Venetians steered it into a land grab by dropping the Crusaders off the coast of Croatia and later Constantinople, the latter without giving the Crusaders a ride to anywhere else.

2018-04-24 14:45:09 UTC  

Therefore the Crusaders pillaged the shit out of Constantinople, effectively killing off the Byzantines and leaving the door wide open for the Ottomans to take over 200 years later.