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fucking gestapo
secret police
**Okay /pol/. It's not that big of a deal for me really. My wife is Christian and I'm obviously atheist. I just want to educate my son and let him make his own decisions in life. With that being said, I could use some talking points. I know why I don't believe, and the things that irritate me, but I want to be able to give my son a 20-30 minute talk on the subject though.
So far this is what I'm going to go with:
1. When you were younger, you believed in things like the tooth fairy, Santa, and the Easter Bunny. When you got older, trusted adults explained to you why these magical creatures did not exist. You accepted that. As it stands, there are millions of people who believe in an entity called "God." Why do you believe he exists, yet Santa is fake? Could Santa not be real then?
2. You have had a rough couple of months, and church's excel at creating an environment that make emotional people feel good. There is nothing wrong with feeling good, but religion can, and does, exploit that. When they talk to you, try to keep in mind that they may have ulterior motives, with what they say.
3. I will explain an experience I had with a preacher, who said my belief an evolution was ridiculous, yet I should accept his belief in an invisible being. This is a preacher that pulled up in front of my house, while I was working in my driveway. Religion is pushy, and if you don't believe exactly what they believe and how they believe it, then you are cast out.
4. I will explain to him how the church is anti science and I was thinking of making him watch the Ken Ham debate with Bill Nye.**
This guys strat is bad.
His wife will find out and belittle him about it
Because Santa was made intentionally as an urban legend, God was created in order to convince people he is in actuality real.
Santa isn't supposed to be believable, God is somewhat
Brothers, there is no need for such empty games and drama. The pure and full life is within reach. Anarcho-Agrarianism will win.
the concepts of God and religion was made specifically to convince people they exist
Santa didn't leave a fucking bible did he
Is that actually where the origin of the santa tradition comes from? I know it was said nick but was it actually developed for that purpose?
I know satanism was developed as a catholic fearmonger
Yeah, good tidings and all that shit, in order to make kids feel good
Whereas people work their asses off to convince people God, whichever one, is real
I don't know how to answer the second question
Just shows how fucking ludicrous the whole thing is..
Noble Lie my dude
if you wanna believe that
3 and 4 are literally not even questions
Wot?
see how they're numbered
3 and 4 are just statements on what he intends to do
2nd one I still don't know how to answer
O eye sea
This guy is a bit of a dummie.
He should just let the kid grow up secularly
If forced to choose between a god and uncertainty a child would always choose god.
Because they can't understand atheism.
I think the whole ulterior motive of religion is actually just general altruism. People feel good and they want to share the experience, like dumbass cute cat photos people send literally everywhere. Makes them laugh and seeing your friends laugh usually makes you laugh more. There's also a darker side too in trying to convince people of a religion forcibly, like Muslims. Governments use shit like "divine placement" to justify their position as a ruler in some Arabic countries, same could go for Catholics, a shifting of power from an individual to a whole organization that allows them to influence people's decisions
only real answer I could come up with off the top of my head
which is why I somewhat support congregationalism
Religions purpose was to eliminate uncertainty. Before we developed concepts like existentialism and nihilism it's all they had. Living is scary and religion was there to tell people everything will be alright. Religious doctrine pretends to have answers it does not have.
Without agrarianism, religion is misunderstood.
Redistributing land?
How the fuck are those two things relevant?
What the hell does that have to do with it?
@Suda Well, there's also people in the past who did magic tricks/miracles and that can convince people. On the note of underdeveloped philosophical thought, plenty of ancients like the Greeks had basic concepts that rejected the idea of any Gods or supreme beings
Like Jesus
People literally used to have to ask priests what the time was.
That level of (potential) manipulation is insane
Clerics in the middle ages were the only ones who could read and write, and the materials to copy down the knowledge. Of course I'm not saying they all did this, but I'm sure a few skipped on a few olden books that might've supported pagan ideals.
but largely they did a good job preserving old writings, like that of Plato and Homer
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Agrarianism is the perfection of human life, fully realised in his close relation to and work on the land. Without this framework, spiritual life is misunderstood.
So you're just shitting basically
No?
no coherent sense whatsoever mate
This is of zero relation to religion
How can a fool in a mental asylum understand himself?
That is modernity.
Please explain how redistribution of land and religion mix
I didn't say anything about redistribution. Agrarianism is a way of life.
The perfect mode where man understands himself.
yoyoyo
is this 8chan leftypol or those shitposters on 4chan
it's dead
really dead
but what r u tho
r u bolsheviks or beta cucks
Both.
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the beta cuck faggots need to be deported
bolsheviks only
Personally, I am an Anarcho-Agrarian. I reject all government.
IS THIS MANLY ENOUGH FOR YOU? REEEEEEEEEE
>Anarcho-Agarian
sounds like some shit that came up in Africa
It is man's perfected state.
If you say so
@Anglican >Brony fascists
Possibly the worst part of the alt right.
Ponies are cute.
@Deleted User >Not admiring innocence
you're a broken human being
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293924817101520896/341630255775350785/20170731_111637.jpg Somebody call the slave owners this bitch escaped from the plantation.
Poines'll never break my heart.
Why should I trust anyone when they shit on me, when I have ponies?
Cute little talking ponies?
WIth magic and autistic colour pallets
Ugh, I don't wanna sleep but I really should
Okay, I'll be sure to annoy @Deleted User some more tomorrow after the Doctor's
>OC DO NOT STEAL
as I said, God bless and al. Don't step on a lego.
Great for noah.
~~Seriously, good night~~
~~Closing computer now~~
~~Okay seriously~~
[strike]Sure me too.[/strike]
I seriously thought that the brony fad had died out in 2013.
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