Message from @John

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2017-08-01 05:13:24 UTC  

I know satanism was developed as a catholic fearmonger

2017-08-01 05:13:29 UTC  

Yeah, good tidings and all that shit, in order to make kids feel good

2017-08-01 05:13:51 UTC  

Whereas people work their asses off to convince people God, whichever one, is real

2017-08-01 05:14:02 UTC  

I don't know how to answer the second question

2017-08-01 05:14:15 UTC  

Just shows how fucking ludicrous the whole thing is..

2017-08-01 05:14:25 UTC  

Noble Lie my dude

2017-08-01 05:14:33 UTC  

if you wanna believe that

2017-08-01 05:14:35 UTC  

@John Grandfather Frost is the only true God.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/341810926736900097/qXFrZJ99cDA.jpg

2017-08-01 05:14:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/341810962686279680/image.jpg

2017-08-01 05:14:57 UTC  

3 and 4 are literally not even questions

2017-08-01 05:15:11 UTC  

Wot?

2017-08-01 05:15:18 UTC  

see how they're numbered

2017-08-01 05:15:27 UTC  

3 and 4 are just statements on what he intends to do

2017-08-01 05:15:36 UTC  

2nd one I still don't know how to answer

2017-08-01 05:15:45 UTC  

O eye sea

2017-08-01 05:16:02 UTC  

This guy is a bit of a dummie.

2017-08-01 05:16:10 UTC  

He should just let the kid grow up secularly

2017-08-01 05:16:29 UTC  

If forced to choose between a god and uncertainty a child would always choose god.

2017-08-01 05:16:36 UTC  

Because they can't understand atheism.

2017-08-01 05:18:28 UTC  

I think the whole ulterior motive of religion is actually just general altruism. People feel good and they want to share the experience, like dumbass cute cat photos people send literally everywhere. Makes them laugh and seeing your friends laugh usually makes you laugh more. There's also a darker side too in trying to convince people of a religion forcibly, like Muslims. Governments use shit like "divine placement" to justify their position as a ruler in some Arabic countries, same could go for Catholics, a shifting of power from an individual to a whole organization that allows them to influence people's decisions

2017-08-01 05:19:03 UTC  

only real answer I could come up with off the top of my head

2017-08-01 05:19:21 UTC  

which is why I somewhat support congregationalism

2017-08-01 05:24:30 UTC  

Religions purpose was to eliminate uncertainty. Before we developed concepts like existentialism and nihilism it's all they had. Living is scary and religion was there to tell people everything will be alright. Religious doctrine pretends to have answers it does not have.

2017-08-01 05:26:01 UTC  

Without agrarianism, religion is misunderstood.

2017-08-01 05:26:36 UTC  

Redistributing land?

2017-08-01 05:26:41 UTC  

How the fuck are those two things relevant?

2017-08-01 05:26:44 UTC  

What the hell does that have to do with it?

2017-08-01 05:29:13 UTC  

@Suda Well, there's also people in the past who did magic tricks/miracles and that can convince people. On the note of underdeveloped philosophical thought, plenty of ancients like the Greeks had basic concepts that rejected the idea of any Gods or supreme beings

2017-08-01 05:29:32 UTC  

@John Touché

2017-08-01 05:29:33 UTC  

Like Jesus

2017-08-01 05:29:52 UTC  

People literally used to have to ask priests what the time was.

2017-08-01 05:30:00 UTC  

That level of (potential) manipulation is insane

2017-08-01 05:31:22 UTC  

Clerics in the middle ages were the only ones who could read and write, and the materials to copy down the knowledge. Of course I'm not saying they all did this, but I'm sure a few skipped on a few olden books that might've supported pagan ideals.

2017-08-01 05:32:15 UTC  

but largely they did a good job preserving old writings, like that of Plato and Homer

2017-08-01 05:36:48 UTC  

https://discord.gg/q5QuYe2
This is a fully functional mock government, with all three branches of government, states, local governments and all. Right now we need members so we are open to all coming and potentially holding positions on this mock government which has been around for about 5 months.

2017-08-01 05:36:51 UTC  

Join this nigs

2017-08-01 05:37:44 UTC  

Agrarianism is the perfection of human life, fully realised in his close relation to and work on the land. Without this framework, spiritual life is misunderstood.

2017-08-01 05:38:36 UTC  

So you're just shitting basically

2017-08-01 05:39:46 UTC  

No?

2017-08-01 05:39:50 UTC  

no coherent sense whatsoever mate

2017-08-01 05:40:04 UTC  

This is of zero relation to religion