@Suda it's true bro

the concepts of God and religion was made specifically to convince people they exist

Santa didn't leave a fucking bible did he

Is that actually where the origin of the santa tradition comes from? I know it was said nick but was it actually developed for that purpose?

I know satanism was developed as a catholic fearmonger

Yeah, good tidings and all that shit, in order to make kids feel good

Whereas people work their asses off to convince people God, whichever one, is real

I don't know how to answer the second question

Just shows how fucking ludicrous the whole thing is..

Noble Lie my dude

if you wanna believe that

@John Grandfather Frost is the only true God.

3 and 4 are literally not even questions

Wot?

see how they're numbered

3 and 4 are just statements on what he intends to do

2nd one I still don't know how to answer

O eye sea

This guy is a bit of a dummie.

He should just let the kid grow up secularly

If forced to choose between a god and uncertainty a child would always choose god.

Because they can't understand atheism.

I think the whole ulterior motive of religion is actually just general altruism. People feel good and they want to share the experience, like dumbass cute cat photos people send literally everywhere. Makes them laugh and seeing your friends laugh usually makes you laugh more. There's also a darker side too in trying to convince people of a religion forcibly, like Muslims. Governments use shit like "divine placement" to justify their position as a ruler in some Arabic countries, same could go for Catholics, a shifting of power from an individual to a whole organization that allows them to influence people's decisions

only real answer I could come up with off the top of my head

which is why I somewhat support congregationalism

Religions purpose was to eliminate uncertainty. Before we developed concepts like existentialism and nihilism it's all they had. Living is scary and religion was there to tell people everything will be alright. Religious doctrine pretends to have answers it does not have.

Without agrarianism, religion is misunderstood.

Redistributing land?

How the fuck are those two things relevant?

What the hell does that have to do with it?

@Suda Well, there's also people in the past who did magic tricks/miracles and that can convince people. On the note of underdeveloped philosophical thought, plenty of ancients like the Greeks had basic concepts that rejected the idea of any Gods or supreme beings

@John Touché

Like Jesus

People literally used to have to ask priests what the time was.

That level of (potential) manipulation is insane

Clerics in the middle ages were the only ones who could read and write, and the materials to copy down the knowledge. Of course I'm not saying they all did this, but I'm sure a few skipped on a few olden books that might've supported pagan ideals.

but largely they did a good job preserving old writings, like that of Plato and Homer

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