>british kunt

you cant even spell cunt you stupid slav

No wonder socialism failed in eastern europe

Actually the peoples republic of John succeeded under socialism

ive never heard of it

>not supporting general secretary tony blair

Are there any other Discords that discuss Marxist theory?

https://discord.gg/p2W6rD

INVITE EXPIRED

tf

https://discord.gg/72geet

?

Same thing. Could be a bug. Let me reload.

Still no good. Thanks for trying though.

maybe no nerds are allowed

ha

nerd

It's true.

Ah, apparently it's due to the ban settings on the server.

It will work if you revoke all bans from your server list.

@Deleted User There are servers. But very limited. Even I, Marxist-Leninist, feel lots of restrictions there and if you say something not according to the common uneducated believe you can be out in no time.

Hmmm, thanks. I will save myself the trouble. I noticed that even the larger servers like Unofficial Leftypol hardly have much discussion on serious and theory discussion. That's okay, I can focus my energies here. Like always, I just wanted to be thorough.

@Deleted User ML servers do have some theory, but they are for MLs.

There is a /pol server with like 1k people online.

Trump company server

Disgusting. I do not browse /pol/ anymore.

@Deleted User I do. Sometimes there is something nice in there. But with every month less and less intellectual discussion, more and more memeing.

I suppose I have a different perspective. I visited that place everyday for 6 months. I am jaded.

Same happened with Russian imageboards last year.

It was so much fun when internet was young and every single new user was educated, professional and friendly.

Not anymore

maybe we should create an intranet with 500$ entrance fee.

For what purpose? Entitled little shitheads can just use daddy's credit card.

@Deleted User it is not the best idea. But we've passed good times and new generation won't even see it.

I share that sentiment. What can be learn? The sticky little fingers of the youth ruin everything? Like everything today, it is trivial and not taken seriously. The meaning of life in the modern life is to do pleasant things and laugh, sucking on the tit of capitalism.

@Deleted User the level of narcissism is also unspeakable. Now they take pictures of food. Not only themselves.

One thing I like reading about Lenin is that when he realised that the masses were not capable, he took it upon himself to direct a suitable path.

Infantile society has to go already. It is a good time to let it go.

@Deleted User Marx realized it first. Just he was not a good organizer.

It seems clear that this is the correct course of action.

Even Lenin did lots of infantile mistakes.

But with new generation of communists we will mature.

@Firefly What do you mean, mistakes?

@Deleted User Do you know they surrendered the army and police and all the government hierarchies at first.

Took them couple of years to rebuild.

They tried to organize it as it would be a commune.

At first. But the Bolsheviks did learn and adapt. Stalin became the embodiment of this.

@Deleted User Right, but many mistakes were made in the process.

@Firefly Yes, many mistakes. But at least they were not too dogmatic, like the silly SocDems.

@Deleted User Did you know they let white army officers and soldiers free after capturing them? Sometimes 3 times the same people.

Who just went back and grabbed a gun.

You can learn a lot from their experience. Compassion can be a vice when it goes against reason.

Now we shouldn't let anybody go.

Unless they swear Allegiance to the Party.

@Deleted User Unless, yes.

@Firefly And so, back to the problem of the masses ruining it for themselves. It seems the answer has already been written. It seems the Party has to steer the boat back on course.

@Deleted User right

Also, just so you know. I am not a Fascist anymore. I am past the point of no return and cannot go back.

@Deleted User I judge every topic or matter case by case. Many people with incorrect ideology might have correct thoughts. Many people with correct ideology might have been fucked in the head. Lenin said communists have a huge amount of crazy and stupid people, but somewhat less than any other. Also he wrote that some well educated idealist is a better target for cooperation than an idiot materialist or leftiest.

That's a pretty smart policy. At least you are not blind to the reality like a religious person. It is important to see the difference between the ideology and being able to execute it well. Unlike some dogmatists who give anyone with the same ideology a free pass.

Oj firefly

@Firefly Is this the reason why you allow free speech?

What is your ideology if you have a certain one?

@Deleted User I think there should be a combination of hard, almost absolute hierarchy for the government and Party and all related structures and a lot of freedom for common man.

@Hezbolshevik I'm a liberal Marxist-Leninist anti-opportunist anti-revisionist with some right tendencies.

@Firefly What about the individual that speaks out against the collective good?

@Deleted User They have to be fought hard on an intellectual, information level.

@Firefly I'm assuming you're not too fond of stalin?

@Hezbolshevik You can call me Stalinist.

Ok good

Because I'm an MLM that obsesses over stalin, not that I refuse to speak to anybody anti stalin

@Deleted User I have often thought about how to deal with religion and religious thinking, it seems an iron fist does not work very well. I think there is some good reasons to pursue an intellectual approach. However there are many people who cannot be convinced with arguments. A lot of Americans (USA) I have spoken to are some of the most stubborn and dogmatic people I have ever met. In this example, it seems almost impossible to get through to them with only arguments. It seems what little intellect they have is shielded from any reason or appeal.

@Deleted User what is it that you belive

Thought is not only intellectual, it is embedded in people's nervous systems.

As in ideology

@Hezbolshevik I am an ex-Fascist lost in the wilderness.

@Deleted User That is true, but what is that an idiot can do against the Party?

let him speak nonsense. Let people see who is our opposition

Thats what Putin does to opposition.

It lets it be and enjoys the outcome

@Firefly Russia has a strong history of intellectuals. This is not the case in the land of Trump voters.

@Deleted User The Party has to be firstly the Intellectual Leader and only after administrative.

It has to crush opposition with intellect.

If strong ideas are all you need, why does religion still exist? Has the ideas just not been pushed hard enough?

@Deleted User Religion dropped to 5-7% in Soviet Union just after the educational system allowed scientific world-view.

I'm not sure about exact numbers

Now it grows back rapidly. Muslim regions doing the fastest fall.

Albania restricted religion under Hoxha

Yes, but the Soviet Union used Terror tactics to attack religion, not only intellect.

Muslims grow there faster than in Russia now

So Enver Hoxha successfully restricted religion for a time of his life.

And I do approve. But there are different less radical ways

That also do work.

So then the crushing of religious thought needs constant pressure because the moment you relax it rebounds quickly.

@Deleted User The educational system has to provide an access to scientific worldview. If you have time this is more than enough, I think. If you don't have time you should do whatever by any means necessary.