is it fair though if we arent equal?

We're not born equal.

Why?

Oh you mean

However, the rule of law ensures that we are treated equally.

I see what you mean

why should we be treated equally though if we know we arent equal?

Because that's fair.

Like being born into wealth or poverty, a geographic region, etc. will create inequality

That's what allows for checks and balances.

Uhhh

Market socialist

Inequality is naturally created, however, the law is supposed to even the playing field of life.

Could we have a Romanian chat?

How would you prevent inequality from further expanding?

It's all about order through balance.

so what youre saying is government should be used to create equal opportunity where there is none?

The faithful execution of law prevents inequality from expanding.

@Bamboo Tu es francais?

@Denning Yes, that's the duty of government.

racism can be considered a natural thing tho

@America Billiards No

Awww

does government have other duties?

Of course.

Sorry mate

Maintain an Army and a Navy, faithfully execute law, protect people's rights, etc.

the very nature of a military implies loyalty

Overall, government duty is to provide opportunity to those who don't have many,

so your proposed state would still be hierarchical

Only if the military ruled.

My proposed state would be constitutional.

is this acceptable despite the threat of inequality?

No hierarchy.

There will always be a threat of inequality.

Through a constitutional state, that threat will be minimized.

why exist with the threat when you can eliminate it entirely tho
constitutional states don't really last

but constitutions have historically more served to guarantee the rights of those in power than the other way around

You can't eliminate inequality though

They will last if you enforce the law faithfully.

It's all about maintaining a republic.

what would this constitution look like?

How do you ensure the law is enforced though?

It's in plain writ.

Direct democracy in the republic?

No democracy.

Only a constitutional republic.

words on parchment don't mean anything if you don't have people to represent it

Wait so how does that work>

so how is the government determined?

If presented, the people would prefer a constitutional republic.

It gives the people the power.

Government then become representational extensions of the people.

Wait but people don't vote?

Or the people act as their own representatives?

The people act as their own representation.

how do you stop representatives from becoming a class of their own?

Voting is pointless for the most part.

Nice

politics as an industry the way we see today?

We do away with representatives.

No the people are their own representatives

how does this work then?

direct democracy is the only way

Fuck that.

Direct democracy is nothing more than capitalism.

Then how?

Constitutional republic only.

In which there are no representatives.

what if those people take more power for themselves
the way you're describing it is very anarchic to say the least

so anarchy but its still called a government?

how does the government exercise power and through what?

We already have anarchy which is called government.

to me this sounds like dressing up anarchism and calling it something else

what?

same honestly

I'm freezing

Had a good shower tho

In a constitutional republic, a government is not even necessary.

They will be nothing more than a service extension of the people.

All to protect the people.

so they have power

🤔

but at the same time

they don't

so a constitutional republic that doesnt exist

Sounds alot like a government to me

The only power they have is what's allocated to them in the constitution.

this sounds very odd

this sounds stupid is what

This sounds like the existing United States

Lol

Government will not have much power, they will only have resources.

what the fuck are you trying to say

do we have a government or not

words on parchment don't mean anything if you don't have anyone enforcing it
a constitution only had power if they have people who enforce it

Don't worry about it guys. He's paranoid

Don't resources = power?

I'm saying that we need a constitutional government without representatives.

that makes