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europe is already winning in its migrant quotas

usa needs to keep up

oof, keep it up europe, show us mutts how much islam you can take

nah, we suck, be build walls and shit

we are competing with israel and china for wall game

we cant win the immigrant game anymore

Thank you! @Bearer Of The Curse

@Orwell God bless America

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here is what i think:

1) Heavy immigration is bad. 2) You cannot have open borders, they should be either closed, or highly regulated. 3) I hate Islam. 4) Culture must be maintained. 5) Fuck Globalism and regional unions. 6) Protect the environment. 7) I'm an Egoist.

***CHANGE MY MIND***

I can agree with most of those

however with the case of the united states its hard to define what actually counts as american culture

Aside from your attitude, there's no much room for change

Egoism is the only problem there

why

morality does not exist. it's a spook

ssame with ethics

and laws

america is a concept that goes beyond being a mere nation in that various cultures are welcomed as long as they conform to western values

Cool, but I can't trust someone that's with me for personal gain.

but the thing is

altruism does not exist. anything anyone does is for them self. we are all egoists, only some of us realize it.

While collectivism and subverting ones self for the rest of the masses is unamerican, only being in things for yourself is just plain selfish and destructive.

thats a pretty big generalization

Ok now you're manipulating the goal

give me any example of someone that did something for other people

like a made up example let's say

uhh donating to charity?

ho ho ho there buddy

its not like thatll do me any good on my resume

You can trace it back to muh feels, but it doesn't matter. If you are only considering muh feels, you'll see that it's an AWFUL trade

Clean your room

although it may look like one is doing something nice, it's not their underlying intent. for example, it could be that people will look good in front of everyone else to donate to charity, or that they are pressered by everyone else to do it. Both of which are selfish intents

But there are people that willingly donate a portion of their goods because they feel that it is the right thing to do

I can speak for myself when I do that

yeah for themselves

also

A soldier that risks his life to save a complete stranger won't be statistically happier than if he hadn't

it is basically a social norm for everyone to donate to charity

In what country lmao

america. most people with money donate to charity

some more than others but still

It's defnitely not a social norm.

It's not even a biological absolute, the survival of the species is way more important than the safety of the individual

@Bearer Of The Curse it could be that that soldier could not have lived with himself had he not done that. or that he wanted to feel better about himself.

>Could
Now you're talking ifs, what about that absolute before?

no it is defiently one of those, just there are more selfish examples therefore i say could. i just do not want to imply that those are the only two reasons

That soldier feels it's his duty to save that person. He will ignore harm and therefore suffer an AWFUL trade if what's in game is your own ego. Even if he has a chance to go out depressed, it's safer to not do so, or even use that person as bait

wait what

are you saying he will be depressed if that person died and he did not save him?

I said a chance, because that would be a somewhat egoistic motive, to not go sick for your inaction. But even then, it's a problem caused by altruism

no it is not

it is caused by the reasons l listed up above. or it could be because it is his job. In this case, he should do that, because he is being payed to do it. Again, an egoistic motive

or some other reason

Welcome

No, in the listed case he's a soldier, he has no financial incentive to save someone

This is not a VIP case

What is the debate?

Egoism

no. that is incorrect. a lot of people are soldeirs because they cannot provide themselves in any other way

he believes altruism exists, i think it does not

Cool down and read the situation again

? cool down ?

You don't lose your job because you keep shooting at the enemy instead of saving a fellow trooper

Actually saving that trooper might cost your job

no you do not understand

he is payed to do so

He is not, a soldier is paid to follow orders, and saving a complete stranger while not being ordered to do so is not doing your job as a soldier

What is egoism

As far as I'm aware, it's the philosophy of doing everything in order to benefit yourself.

So the debate is...what? Are all people egoists? No.

The debate was about altruism not existing, that every action is coated in selfishness

I think that he does have a point, everything we do, we do because we have a reason to. It's fair to say that charity and generosity are largely done because it makes the person doing it feel good.

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Is this chat active much?

Not that much, I mean, it's a really new server, it can go from really big discussions or shitposting to really calm hours without new content

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