Message from @Bearer Of The Curse
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however with the case of the united states its hard to define what actually counts as american culture
Aside from your attitude, there's no much room for change
Egoism is the only problem there
why
morality does not exist. it's a spook
ssame with ethics
and laws
america is a concept that goes beyond being a mere nation in that various cultures are welcomed as long as they conform to western values
Cool, but I can't trust someone that's with me for personal gain.
but the thing is
altruism does not exist. anything anyone does is for them self. we are all egoists, only some of us realize it.
While collectivism and subverting ones self for the rest of the masses is unamerican, only being in things for yourself is just plain selfish and destructive.
thats a pretty big generalization
Ok now you're manipulating the goal
give me any example of someone that did something for other people
like a made up example let's say
uhh donating to charity?
ho ho ho there buddy
its not like thatll do me any good on my resume
You can trace it back to muh feels, but it doesn't matter. If you are only considering muh feels, you'll see that it's an AWFUL trade
although it may look like one is doing something nice, it's not their underlying intent. for example, it could be that people will look good in front of everyone else to donate to charity, or that they are pressered by everyone else to do it. Both of which are selfish intents
But there are people that willingly donate a portion of their goods because they feel that it is the right thing to do
I can speak for myself when I do that
yeah for themselves
also
A soldier that risks his life to save a complete stranger won't be statistically happier than if he hadn't
it is basically a social norm for everyone to donate to charity
In what country lmao
america. most people with money donate to charity
some more than others but still
It's defnitely not a social norm.
It's not even a biological absolute, the survival of the species is way more important than the safety of the individual
@Bearer Of The Curse it could be that that soldier could not have lived with himself had he not done that. or that he wanted to feel better about himself.
>Could
Now you're talking ifs, what about that absolute before?
no it is defiently one of those, just there are more selfish examples therefore i say could. i just do not want to imply that those are the only two reasons
That soldier feels it's his duty to save that person. He will ignore harm and therefore suffer an AWFUL trade if what's in game is your own ego. Even if he has a chance to go out depressed, it's safer to not do so, or even use that person as bait
wait what
are you saying he will be depressed if that person died and he did not save him?
I said a chance, because that would be a somewhat egoistic motive, to not go sick for your inaction. But even then, it's a problem caused by altruism
no it is not