It's not necessary that she doesn't remarry, but it does great honour to her husband to make him her only mate

A spook.

i was letting myself be WAY underpaid

yeah, definetely not in the corporate world

"A spook"

Not an argument

well, there were a lot of people who were underpaid during the recession

yeah

So the argument is more "spiritual" in nature yeah?

I don't know if you were in that category, i came into the job I currenlty have making 20k more than people who have been there for like 3 years cause the market chagned

It is. It's a literal spook. Honour dosen't exist independently of your consciousness. It's a subjective preference.

Ok

So is basically every opinion

Point?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/californias-second-biggest-utility-verge-collapse-next-edison-plummets-after-saying-it-may

Nobody is obliged to care about your honour.

I am

So are people who want to maintain long term relationships of any nature with me

Spiritual argument are a lot harder to crack than material one
Much more important as well
Unless you assume the role of the absolute reductionist

It's a prerequisite for being in my life actually

I have explained this too you many times @Weaboo Kempeitai the fact that preferences are subjective does not mean that they are equal

You will never find a woman who will have you as her only mate. That simply isn't how humans work. Things change. People stop loving eachover. This is good. This is how why find ideal mates.

devops is taking away my old postion, i have been gathering that experience over the last few years, I think I am finally confident to move on now

Monogamy has been the norm in European societies since Europeans could be distinguished as a population kek

it does not mean that you are obligated to respect other's preferences, and it does not mean that you shouldn't impose those preferences on the world

yeah you need to FULLY adopt the growth mindset. dont be one of those "who moved my cheese" guys

A spiritual argument can only by trumped by another spiritual argument

get THIRSTY for new challenges, they are new opportunities to grow

the best feeling is to be STRONG and know you are not dependent on any one job

sysadmins are going away, and those who can't code are either being server monkeys or retiring

Polyandry is unhealthy

In fact, if you want to make a woman and a man depressed, and create a shitty home environment, you can create some bullshit honor code that dictates that they cannot divorce one another.

everything is virtual boxes now and less work right?

what about polygyny?

you are viewing things on the micro scale, divorce is an institution

yeah, and hardware is more stable

Divorce was illegal in my country for about 400 years LMAO

it changes the entire game

People seemed to turn out fine

you have to look at the big picture

Yes, and that's bad.

Actually better then than now

I have no clue but I would imagine the attachment you feel to a dead spouse is much different than in the flesh
I wouldn't blame anyone for getting remarried I think

obviously its not bad

lol

plus, new tools, managing 1k servers with automation vs 100 manually

yeah learn some python its super popular

for that you merely need to look at happiness rates, rates of depression, birthrates et cetera etc.

obviously it worked

to argue otherwise would be ignorant

i feel like for older people we're at disadvantage in interviews, but once we're hired, we have such a depth of knowledge we blow away everyone else on our level

No it's not, divorce creates mentally dysfunctional women, encourages promiscuity and disincentivizes pair bonding and marital commitment which is entirely deleterious to the establishment of functional family units and thus deleterious to the whole of society

Will have to, I can read the code usually, just haven't done any projects with it.

Well, depression probably wasn't recognised as a legitimate mental condition for much of modern human history, so those stats couldn't be considered reliable.

it doesn't matter you can look just at the twentieth century

Jews

yup, that's true, experience can mean alot, as long as you understand what management is trying to do with all these new tools, I seeen a lot of older guys (mostly boomers) complaining and bitching that things are changing

Going to go to Wales to impregnate a foid, then to Glasgow and then to San Francisco. That's the power of the white man

putting a wrench into progress

And why would anyone care if a woman is happy in a marriage? This was also an age where they were obliged to give sex as part of marriages that were often arranged.

yeah thats the stupid "who moved my cheese" mindset

Some of them just don't get it

you need to adopt growth mindset

be thirsty for new challenges

new tools

"that which is not growing is dead"

indeed

a lot of old guys wanna fossilize and keep doing the same thing the same way

thats suicide today, things change

At lot of dumb factory workers did that

*shreds documentation for legacy system*

https://youtu.be/myr5JxC4b_I
I've heard this song like 8 times today
Rednecks go crazy

And then cried when their job got replaced

"bud i were da best at putting that part togeder for 30 years!"

@Leaf Divorce allows second chances to couples who may have made the wrong choice initially. There's nothing wrong with taking more time to find an ideal mate. It's good for the creation of functional family units. I want a woman who will make a good mother to my children, not to get glued to someone who is neurotic, or mentally ill.

Yeah, I seen so many developer - ops pissing battles it's not even funny. That's not good to do from the ops end, as there are so many ways for developers to just work around you

"Ideal mate"

wrong

you are looking on the micro scale

This presumes that individuals have more unique value than they actually do

Is divorce always unacceptable?

you need to look a divorce as an institution vs. a non-divorce society

it is totally irrelevant whether or not there are cases where it is acceptable

is the general social principle which matters

The principal purpose of marriage is reproduction, community and all derived from it, individual happiness, comfort and pleasure are secondary to a great many things and the importance of these is one of them

Women should only be allowed to divorce if:
1) The man is unfaithful
2) The man is violently abusive
3) The man does not provide

watched Idiocracy

nice

that shit was hilarious

Yeah, that's fair

yes lol

It was prophecy

law degree from Costco

If youd like to avoid a union with a psychopath then choose a better mate and advocate for changes in your society which will produce more of them rather than enabling circumstances which create mentally unsound people

I got my medicine degree from Walmart

I bought it, pretty cheap

Psychopathy isn't environmental.

it was, people even new at the time. I'll have to get it.

Neither are many mental illnesses.

anyone see midway

Yeah they are

mental illness being genetic is a meme

Depression can occur in anyone, regardless of financial standing.

Psychopathy was just a catch all term for poor mental health

Idiocracy explains spciety at large

No, it's not.

both my parents had no assets, very little money

Although yeah, most mental illnesses are caused by environmental factors

didn't get married til their 30's

Wrong.

They want you to think it's genetic so you'll buy their medicine

Such as diet, physical activity, psychological or physical trauma

Wrong.

Ok r tard

Prove it

diet is the most important against depression

I inherited tools when my dad passed.

my parents aren't low IQ but they aren't super high IQ either

and even they didn't settle down young

diet and being active

running is really good for mood

they said they didn't like the idea of settling down and having children

https://www.nhs.uk/news/genetics-and-stem-cells/five-mental-disorders-may-have-genetic-links/

i love to go out running or hiking early morning

see the sunrise

until they were much older

So five may be genetically linked

has anyone else noticed that Melania looks like a Boganoff?

sun is also very important

The only time I have seen the sunrise is when I stay up too late

Five most commonly diagnosed, yes.

Yes your genes might play a role in predisposition but lifestyle choices are integral to good mental health

My parents got married at 23 dirt poor and popped out four kids <:CHAD:396569198404435969>

yes lifestyle is also a factor as far as I know

yeah, you must nurture your mind body and soul

it's like with cancer, you can be predisposed to a certain kind of cancer, but if you'r ehealthy you won't get it

my mom was 35 and my dad was 33

I was born the next year

I've had dealings with mental health institutions since I was quite young because I had a somewhat unorthodox upbringing and can guarantee that this is the case

brother was born 4 years later

cardio is really good for keeping your brain plastic too

Depression can literally occur in anyone. Some lifestyle changes can help symptoms, but actual clinical depression is the result of a chemical imbalance.

it increases production of new neurons

through BDNF

I was supposed to be an only child cause they didn't want to raise a bunch of kids, and probably couldn't afford it anyway

Chemical imbalance caused by environment

my parents kind of drifted from job to job

Chemical imbalances can be rectified by lifestyle changes lol

Lmao they aren't

Prove it.

You have more power over your own body than you think

Yeah they are lmao, they say they aren't to sell you meds

then when they got married they opened a little store

but it was only enough to pay the rent

You're legit the people who tell depressed people to drink more water.

my mom came from a low class household

Where do you think these chemicals come from, largely from the gut

We know that certain activities induce more or less production of certain hormones and chemicals

Nah drinking water is bad in general, you don't need much

and my dad was from a more or less rich middle class family

I literally cured my depression and anxiety with diet only

MMW will tell you that depression comes from inflammation in the body

but wealth can dissipate generationally when the head of the household has no replacement

Okay

working out everyday, diet and sleep fix pretty much every problem

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7621869/Paracetamol-aspirin-statins-curb-symptoms-depression.html

@Str3tch it literally does

in the case of SAD

I used to have depression years ago

yeah brain inflammation is no good

I can basically vouch that it is physical and not actually psychological

Psychological = physical

i never gave much consideration to the topic

I doubt very seriously that its a purely psychological or neurotransmitter thing

Dosen't matter. Chemical imbalances are unavoidable. Many can only be corrected with medication, and there's no reason why we shouldn't correct them with medication, other than spooky morals.

in fact one of the things that helped me was eating more, eating more protein, drinking water instead of sugar

from my experience

also being social and especially the number one thing...

sleeping more

Because medication has side effects, it's much better to just fix the cause

Anecdotes.

that's my problem, sleep

if you really want to sleep in then do it, and you will feel better

david duke harps about that

I was actually selectively mute when I was 14/15/16 and couldn't even speak to people in public

Weaboo its obviously environmental

To fix your sleep just get enough sunlight during the day

lol

a lot of the people with depression are overwhelmed and exhausted by their daily routines

@Sytze Side effects really aren't that bad and only occur in a few users.

Going outdoors was a huge hassle for me

just look at the depression rates over time

right people aren't getting enough sunlight, working inside all day

if you don't think its largely environmental, you're straight up a retard

and eating like shit

Weaboo is a moody teen who has assimilated his mental dysfunction into his identity because in 2019 it's cool to be a mentally unsound retard in pop culture and there's all sorts of romanticisation of it

some people can be depressed from biological reasons I suppose

this is not a genetic change

but those people are usually mentally unstable anyway

Plus it let's you excuse a lot of your shitty behaviour

and drugs don't really help them

yeah, depressed they have shitty genes

So being unable (unwilling) to resolve your mental illnesses is incentivised because it let's you be a pos basically

and garners empathetic attention from others

depressed genes is a derp idea, depressed people wouldn't pass on their genes

Yeah, okay, just because lifestyle changes can improve symptoms dosen't mean mental illness shouldn't and can't be corrected through other means.

Many bipolar and schizophrenic people rely on medication. No diatary or sleep changes will fix their conditions.

schitzophrenia is something completely different

yeah but those people are fucked

I'm positive it can fix their conditions

bipolar is something completely different

tonnes of peoples have depression and no actual mental illness

I do think modern lifestyles are the leading problem

the rate of people who are bipolar or schitzophrenic to people who have depressive disorders is miniscule

everything happens too fast, no one has time to adapt

I would say most people with depression dont actually have "mental illness"

I was having schizophrenic symptoms

and now especially, people are being worked to the bone for small paychecks

Now none at all anymore

modern lifestyle and environment are unequivocally the problem

it is no wonder they feel sick

there is no discussion

most people I know who have had schizophrenia have used a lot of drugs, one even mentioned they can pinpoint the time it started to shooting up a speed ball (heroin mixed with cocaine i think)

They're just having natural reactions to awful lifestyles

Disorganized thoughts and paranoia

also people are becoming anti-social

Also hallucinations

without Human interaction people become depressed

that's anecdotal, but I don't see a lot of evidence to say otherwise

This is such a strawman. Why is it "drugs vs lifestyle changes"? Literally what psychologist wouldn't recommend exercise and getting a good night's sleep to sombody who is depressed regardless of what drugs they're perscribed? Nobody is saying drugs are a fix-all, though many treat them like that.

this

why, after these drugs were developed, did depression rates not drop

psychology is a scam like most of medical science

but instead steadily rose

the drugs mostly just treat symptoms

Because of society and environment. Also, because depression is overdiagnosed

or try to numb the feeling

vs this

they don't actually solve the underlying problem

depression is underdiagnosed

if you have an absolutist position you're not being scientific minded

pysch drugs can help absolutely

Thats $20 worth of fine Detroit real estate there

@esotericpazuzuism one time I was at a hotel in South America that looked like the first picture

it was better than my apartment 😄

and for two nights I only paid like 100-200 dollars

i would buy those houses just to tear them down and re-sell the bricks

If I could take control of a depressed persons life I can guarantee to cure his/her depression in a year

@Nerthulas See the inflammation piece?

I did