sure sure ill take note of all of it. Thanks againn

No wockas.

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@Mister Bomb Lingua Latina per se illustrata

TIL trying to bring around NO catholics is like pulling teeth compared to converting heathens using Tradition.

If you want Trad Catholics, you need to go outside the church, there are too many papal-monarchists within it.

I wish there was a trad parish anywhere near me. I was confirmed in the NO parish I go to, but, and my priest knows this, I would never darken their door again if there was a TLM anywhere near by.

@Mister Bomb, while I think of it (something I forgot to mention): when collecting resources to learn Latin, make sure you grab a good Latin-English (or whatever your primary language is) dictionary. I like Cassel's dictionary, but there are other options available.

Pope Francis kissing the feet of South Sudanese politicians

I cannot wait for the next conclave

>Be The Pope, Frankly
>Kiss Koran and Sudanese feet
>Tell people "me no judgy and muh Matt. 7: >1.5"
>Don't let people kiss Papal Ring

MFW

The conclave will just be more of the same until all the boomers die off, tbh

The real test is when the modernists are taken over by the Conservatives.

Boomers replenish their numbers just enough for now

Pure biology will not make the problem go away

I believe it'll have a profound effect.

Once the Vatican II generation is gone, the bond to Vatican II won't be as strong.

That'll be the time for the trads to stroke.

That is if, of course, the Conservatives don't become a thorn in our side.

it appears the pope is no longer infallible!

https://youtu.be/hYbgaPfQVBo

Redpills for y'all on the Lodge question

@Helter Seltzer ☧ What?

man ill sound crazy - but im just bored. What if vatican II was secretly a way to keep us in Catholic traditions

obviously not true lmao

but it did filter people from lukewarm and orthodox catholics

.....What?

ye nvm

VII was essentially to try and bring Lutherans into the church.

Why do prots attack Catholicism but not Orthodoxy?

Is it Geographical?

Literally none of my former protestant friends knew about Orthodoxy, but seem to be the iconoclastic goyims when it comes to Catholicism.

Because Protestantism is in protest against the Catholic Church.

Plus, I imagine the vast majority of prots have never come into contact with the Orthodox.

In the West at least.

Orthodoxy is the original protestantism

Thats why

^ I personally think that's an unfair comparison.

The great schism is essentially political, they didn't dick about with the theology heinously.

So, my Prot stepmother wants to come with me to Mass on Sunday.

Noice.

thats good Caedes dont scare her away with information. Trust me i messed up that way

I won't. She's been to a few before (mostly funeral masses), so she mostly knows the drill.

My suggestion would convince her to the ancillary stuff.

Vespers, Exposition of the blessed sacrament, etc.

Can I be Catholic and own Ortho art and icons?

Ye

noice thanks

Np

If that wasn't allowed I'd be fricked

Most of my mini shrine is ortho stuff

i think it's acceptable if it depicts a saint canonized by the catholic church

but it's wrong if the saint depicted is not a catholic saint

ah gotcha gotcha

question

is Constantine a saint in the RCC

@Crux I want to say yes

I've heard both yes and no

No mostly from Latin Rite

Every single Eastern Rite Catholic I have asked has given me a very convincing yes

While the Latin Rite Caths I've asked vary between "I think", "probably", "maybe" and "no because he was baptized arian"

There's no veneration at all in the Roman Church but if the Eastern Churches are fully Catholic too then surely that means he is a Saint?

that's my thoughts too @Orrbit

anyone know a good place to buy chapel veils, online or otherwise? My newly baptised gf wants one. I'm in Aus.

@Orrbit all i could do for you was web searched
https://au.dhgate.com/mantilla-chapel-veils-australia.html

I don’t see why us as Catholics couldn’t honor a saint in the Orthodox Churches. We’re brother churches after all

Save for the few major theological differences and cultural differences, were pretty much the same.

Isn’t it sanctioned that we can receive communion validly from an Orthodox Church if the bishop over them is fine with it and they can receive communion from us?

Then why not honor their saints as well even if you don’t ask for their intercession.

we can only receive communion if we can't get to a Catholic church

but their sacraments are valid, yeah

also, we do share most of the saints since a lot of them come from before the schism

Ye

And I see

Thanks for the reminder on the communion thing

@AP-1138 because they are schismatics and outside of salvation by nature of schism. It's not hard to understand.

We don't share most saints because most saints were proclaimed in the past few centuries.

And most of that in the past 50 years

And we'd call a few major theological differences heresy in a number of issues, for example many deny divine simplicity

aren't coptics Monophysites?

And as thee Church has defined a number of dogmas since, they at least partially deny those.

Honestly, from my talks with an orca-dog I know (not in /cult/), most of the differences between us and them are semantic and cultural. They're just autistic and insist that their big Greek words are better and more true than our big Latin words. My EO friend agrees, as does his priest.

what do your EO mates think about the Papacy?

Do they accept papal infallibility for example? Because that's a dogma and it's far from cultural.

yeah thats a big one

Or take the council of trent, see how they feel about many of those.

or like any council after the schism for that matter

Fillioque is major as well

For example that the Catholic Church can punnish heretics and schismatics by death.

I know about all of that

do Eastern Catholics acknowledge filioque?

That's a bit more complicated. They don't like most of the popes themselves, or how much power the pope has. That said, my buddy at least thinks Orthodoxy would benefit from a similar system.

But at the same time, if it’s possible, I should like to see us reconciled with each other

Orthodoxy invented a lot of post hoc anti thomist theology to justify schism

Which is the filioque

funny, Orthodoxy used to benefit from it when it was Catholic

Reconciliation is only one, which is submission to the Catholic Church. Anything else is a farce.

I’m aware

But they’ll never agree to it