I understand some points, but the points that are logical can be fixed under capitalism

They would say everything should be democratically decided by workers

They ironically cite a company founded by a catholic priest for an example on how this could work

"People are starving and homeless"
That's why we have homeless shelters and soup kitchens
"Do you know how underfunded they are?"
Give them more funding

My church is a first responder at natural disasters
"They do it for the PR so that they can get more members and more money"

hahaha guys just imagine if no one was in charge how great would that be HAHA LOL

kill communists

dumb shit

Hahaha guys, why don't we equally spread all of the resources so that people who need more food than other people can't get it because equality

they also boil down all society into economic transactions

One of the people in the server doesn't believe in free will

its oppressive that an 80 iq nigger doesnt live in a house as nice as yours

demons

It's a complicated to explain why she doesn't

lets just feed all the black people for free so that they can have 4 billion children

this wont cause any problems because ROBOTS

Honestly, education would help

we have unlimited natural resources the evil capitalists keep us poor because they are bad

please, please just go visit africa

Even Che gave up on Africa

if you're not a complete shitlib woman already you'll realize that nothing will improve their lives

other than maybe christianity

ssa is a nightmare

even the richer parts

its worse than people think

Africa is a complicated situation. I have my own ideas on why it's like it is

its because of the people that live there

the open borders and minimum wage argument both fall flat too

can't have both

So, imagine Africa as it was before white people came. The tribes were stuck in a state of primitive housing and hunting. They didn't want to progress and didn't care. They also didn't understand health and science very well. White man comes and eventually white man is in charge. After a while, white man loses power and every reaches a somewhat equal society.
But the blacks want white man gone because the whites opressed them. The whites are kicked out. Blacks are left with resources, machinery, and a government that they don't understand. They don't have education in how to use white man stuff. White man must come back and help. But black man still hates ehite man for the crimes of his ancestors

Not exactly how it worked, but that's how I see it

Not really anyone's true fault. Except for the people that perpetuate the situation by not accepting help and education

You can have a high minimum wage and open borders, but only if you have virtually no welfare. The minimum wage and lack of welfare disincentives emigration

One of the dumbest arguments people have is the "no borders" argument. No borders means no countries. That would force us into a society where one government is in charge

>not anyone's fault

sounds like it's entirely the niggers' fault

no you can't have open borders period

its insane

if you're a 1st world country

people will migrate without gibs

because for the same job they will make ten times as much

No it’s literally the gibs

open borders = wage equalization

so if you want to make as much as the lowest wage earners in the world

be my guest

Can we just go back to shitposting

no the gibs make the situation worse

but getting rid of gibs wouldnt end it

wage depression is just as important

arguably worse

this is a shit libertarian argument by people who want poor whites to be poorer

"its ok if you make as much as a peruvian factory worker as long as THE GOVERNMENT doesn't give you food stamps either"

outsourcing is the other side of that coin

I’m against open borders, I’m just saying it’s not inherently going to spell doom for your country as long as you also have a high minimum wage and no gibs

no its actually inherently going to spell doom for the country

even with a high minimum wage

Nah, open borders means that all people who hate you can come in quickly

Lol

True

also, this doesnt even take into account importing people with totally different identities and values

"Yo, America just opened its borders." "Nice. Let's kill some Americans."

if you have high minimum wage + no gibs + open borders you get unemployment

Open borders also means that you would have a massive influx of people. Massive influx that can't be properly regulated

people rush in, labor oversupply, unemployment. but people don't immediately rush out because movement of labor is inelastic

anyway, getting rid of gibs is a libertarian fantasy

It removes all incentives for migration. The problem we have with illegals is because we incentive the whole third world to come here by giving them jobs and free money

no modern country will ever get rid of gibs, its the same as saying they'll become communist

it doesnt remove incentives for migration

there's other incentives besides gibs

the other incentive is that, you leave your country to work for a higher wage and send that back to your family

which happens with every immigrant group

so even if you only send 20% of your salary your family lives well

You know, if you come to America legally, you get more benefits and you're helped by being taught the language.
"But becoming a legal citizen is haaaaaard."

and can save up to buy a nicer house, which you then move back to to retire

there's also the incentive of modern services and less crime

do you really think hondurans wouldnt want to move to the US if they couldnt get gibs? LMAO

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You can have a high minimum wage and open borders, but only if you have virtually no welfare. The minimum wage and lack of welfare disincentives emigration

t.corporation

another assumption here is that minimum wage laws won't be broken

they already are for migrants

a huge surplus of extra labour will drive down wages

dude

I know that we’ll never get rid of gibs. I was speaking hypothetically. The high minimum wages incentives companies to hire Americans. If you’re a factory and you are forced to pay the workers $15 would you rather hire the white the can speak English and show up for work on time, or the spic?

You hire the Hispanic. He can't speak English, so he most likely doesn't understand minimum wage

> The high minimum wages incentives companies to hire Americans. If you’re a factory and you are forced to pay the workers $15 would you rather hire the white the can speak English and show up for work on time, or the spic?

lololol

lol

in what world do you live in my dude

they just move the factory to honduras

where they can pay $5 a day

open border world with $20 minimum wage

🤔

not immediately collapsing somehow

Yeah, majority of American factory work is done out of the country

also yes they still hire the spic because they can treat the spic like shit

Less money

whites wont tolerate work conditions that spics will

this is what boomer trash say when they say immigrants take the jobs americans wont

you're also assuming the spic can't speak enough english to do their job