"its ok if you make as much as a peruvian factory worker as long as THE GOVERNMENT doesn't give you food stamps either"

outsourcing is the other side of that coin

I’m against open borders, I’m just saying it’s not inherently going to spell doom for your country as long as you also have a high minimum wage and no gibs

no its actually inherently going to spell doom for the country

even with a high minimum wage

Nah, open borders means that all people who hate you can come in quickly

Lol

True

also, this doesnt even take into account importing people with totally different identities and values

"Yo, America just opened its borders." "Nice. Let's kill some Americans."

if you have high minimum wage + no gibs + open borders you get unemployment

Open borders also means that you would have a massive influx of people. Massive influx that can't be properly regulated

people rush in, labor oversupply, unemployment. but people don't immediately rush out because movement of labor is inelastic

anyway, getting rid of gibs is a libertarian fantasy

It removes all incentives for migration. The problem we have with illegals is because we incentive the whole third world to come here by giving them jobs and free money

no modern country will ever get rid of gibs, its the same as saying they'll become communist

it doesnt remove incentives for migration

there's other incentives besides gibs

the other incentive is that, you leave your country to work for a higher wage and send that back to your family

which happens with every immigrant group

so even if you only send 20% of your salary your family lives well

You know, if you come to America legally, you get more benefits and you're helped by being taught the language.
"But becoming a legal citizen is haaaaaard."

and can save up to buy a nicer house, which you then move back to to retire

there's also the incentive of modern services and less crime

do you really think hondurans wouldnt want to move to the US if they couldnt get gibs? LMAO

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You can have a high minimum wage and open borders, but only if you have virtually no welfare. The minimum wage and lack of welfare disincentives emigration

t.corporation

another assumption here is that minimum wage laws won't be broken

they already are for migrants

a huge surplus of extra labour will drive down wages

dude

I know that we’ll never get rid of gibs. I was speaking hypothetically. The high minimum wages incentives companies to hire Americans. If you’re a factory and you are forced to pay the workers $15 would you rather hire the white the can speak English and show up for work on time, or the spic?

You hire the Hispanic. He can't speak English, so he most likely doesn't understand minimum wage

> The high minimum wages incentives companies to hire Americans. If you’re a factory and you are forced to pay the workers $15 would you rather hire the white the can speak English and show up for work on time, or the spic?

lololol

lol

in what world do you live in my dude

they just move the factory to honduras

where they can pay $5 a day

open border world with $20 minimum wage