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2018-05-30 20:31:57 UTC  

Open borders also means that you would have a massive influx of people. Massive influx that can't be properly regulated

2018-05-30 20:32:01 UTC  

people rush in, labor oversupply, unemployment. but people don't immediately rush out because movement of labor is inelastic

2018-05-30 20:32:20 UTC  

anyway, getting rid of gibs is a libertarian fantasy

2018-05-30 20:32:25 UTC  

It removes all incentives for migration. The problem we have with illegals is because we incentive the whole third world to come here by giving them jobs and free money

2018-05-30 20:32:33 UTC  

no modern country will ever get rid of gibs, its the same as saying they'll become communist

2018-05-30 20:32:43 UTC  

it doesnt remove incentives for migration

2018-05-30 20:32:49 UTC  

there's other incentives besides gibs

2018-05-30 20:33:12 UTC  

the other incentive is that, you leave your country to work for a higher wage and send that back to your family

2018-05-30 20:33:17 UTC  

which happens with every immigrant group

2018-05-30 20:33:27 UTC  

so even if you only send 20% of your salary your family lives well

2018-05-30 20:33:31 UTC  

You know, if you come to America legally, you get more benefits and you're helped by being taught the language.
"But becoming a legal citizen is haaaaaard."

2018-05-30 20:33:40 UTC  

and can save up to buy a nicer house, which you then move back to to retire

2018-05-30 20:34:15 UTC  

there's also the incentive of modern services and less crime

2018-05-30 20:34:34 UTC  

do you really think hondurans wouldnt want to move to the US if they couldnt get gibs? LMAO

2018-05-30 20:34:42 UTC  

Some Account (Not a Fed) - Today at 4:26 PM
You can have a high minimum wage and open borders, but only if you have virtually no welfare. The minimum wage and lack of welfare disincentives emigration

2018-05-30 20:34:47 UTC  

t.corporation

2018-05-30 20:34:48 UTC  

another assumption here is that minimum wage laws won't be broken

2018-05-30 20:34:53 UTC  

they already are for migrants

2018-05-30 20:35:03 UTC  

a huge surplus of extra labour will drive down wages

2018-05-30 20:35:04 UTC  

dude

2018-05-30 20:35:28 UTC  

I know that we’ll never get rid of gibs. I was speaking hypothetically. The high minimum wages incentives companies to hire Americans. If you’re a factory and you are forced to pay the workers $15 would you rather hire the white the can speak English and show up for work on time, or the spic?

2018-05-30 20:35:51 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405907440861970434/451483908232577034/5b0eb613078fc.png

2018-05-30 20:36:35 UTC  

You hire the Hispanic. He can't speak English, so he most likely doesn't understand minimum wage

2018-05-30 20:36:36 UTC  

> The high minimum wages incentives companies to hire Americans. If you’re a factory and you are forced to pay the workers $15 would you rather hire the white the can speak English and show up for work on time, or the spic?

2018-05-30 20:36:37 UTC  

lololol

2018-05-30 20:36:39 UTC  

lol

2018-05-30 20:36:43 UTC  

in what world do you live in my dude

2018-05-30 20:36:47 UTC  

they just move the factory to honduras

2018-05-30 20:36:55 UTC  

where they can pay $5 a day

2018-05-30 20:36:57 UTC  

open border world with $20 minimum wage

2018-05-30 20:37:01 UTC  

🤔

2018-05-30 20:37:17 UTC  

not immediately collapsing somehow

2018-05-30 20:37:19 UTC  

Yeah, majority of American factory work is done out of the country

2018-05-30 20:37:20 UTC  

also yes they still hire the spic because they can treat the spic like shit

2018-05-30 20:37:25 UTC  

Less money

2018-05-30 20:37:26 UTC  

whites wont tolerate work conditions that spics will

2018-05-30 20:37:44 UTC  

this is what boomer trash say when they say immigrants take the jobs americans wont

2018-05-30 20:37:45 UTC  

you're also assuming the spic can't speak enough english to do their job

2018-05-30 20:37:53 UTC  

it means "we can treat illegals like shit and pay them shit"

2018-05-30 20:37:53 UTC  

or that high skilled labour is being taken over by indians

2018-05-30 20:37:55 UTC  

living 20 to a room