Message from @NSJW

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2018-05-30 20:28:07 UTC  

people will migrate without gibs

2018-05-30 20:28:17 UTC  

because for the same job they will make ten times as much

2018-05-30 20:28:27 UTC  

No it’s literally the gibs

2018-05-30 20:28:28 UTC  

open borders = wage equalization

2018-05-30 20:28:37 UTC  

so if you want to make as much as the lowest wage earners in the world

2018-05-30 20:28:38 UTC  

be my guest

2018-05-30 20:28:49 UTC  

Can we just go back to shitposting

2018-05-30 20:28:49 UTC  

no the gibs make the situation worse

2018-05-30 20:28:54 UTC  

but getting rid of gibs wouldnt end it

2018-05-30 20:29:03 UTC  

wage depression is just as important

2018-05-30 20:29:06 UTC  

arguably worse

2018-05-30 20:29:18 UTC  

this is a shit libertarian argument by people who want poor whites to be poorer

2018-05-30 20:29:42 UTC  

"its ok if you make as much as a peruvian factory worker as long as THE GOVERNMENT doesn't give you food stamps either"

2018-05-30 20:30:01 UTC  

outsourcing is the other side of that coin

2018-05-30 20:30:04 UTC  

I’m against open borders, I’m just saying it’s not inherently going to spell doom for your country as long as you also have a high minimum wage and no gibs

2018-05-30 20:30:16 UTC  

no its actually inherently going to spell doom for the country

2018-05-30 20:30:20 UTC  

even with a high minimum wage

2018-05-30 20:30:35 UTC  

Nah, open borders means that all people who hate you can come in quickly

2018-05-30 20:30:43 UTC  

Lol

2018-05-30 20:30:46 UTC  

True

2018-05-30 20:30:46 UTC  

also, this doesnt even take into account importing people with totally different identities and values

2018-05-30 20:31:09 UTC  

"Yo, America just opened its borders." "Nice. Let's kill some Americans."

2018-05-30 20:31:19 UTC  

if you have high minimum wage + no gibs + open borders you get unemployment

2018-05-30 20:31:57 UTC  

Open borders also means that you would have a massive influx of people. Massive influx that can't be properly regulated

2018-05-30 20:32:01 UTC  

people rush in, labor oversupply, unemployment. but people don't immediately rush out because movement of labor is inelastic

2018-05-30 20:32:20 UTC  

anyway, getting rid of gibs is a libertarian fantasy

2018-05-30 20:32:25 UTC  

It removes all incentives for migration. The problem we have with illegals is because we incentive the whole third world to come here by giving them jobs and free money

2018-05-30 20:32:33 UTC  

no modern country will ever get rid of gibs, its the same as saying they'll become communist

2018-05-30 20:32:43 UTC  

it doesnt remove incentives for migration

2018-05-30 20:32:49 UTC  

there's other incentives besides gibs

2018-05-30 20:33:12 UTC  

the other incentive is that, you leave your country to work for a higher wage and send that back to your family

2018-05-30 20:33:17 UTC  

which happens with every immigrant group

2018-05-30 20:33:27 UTC  

so even if you only send 20% of your salary your family lives well

2018-05-30 20:33:31 UTC  

You know, if you come to America legally, you get more benefits and you're helped by being taught the language.
"But becoming a legal citizen is haaaaaard."

2018-05-30 20:33:40 UTC  

and can save up to buy a nicer house, which you then move back to to retire

2018-05-30 20:34:15 UTC  

there's also the incentive of modern services and less crime

2018-05-30 20:34:34 UTC  

do you really think hondurans wouldnt want to move to the US if they couldnt get gibs? LMAO

2018-05-30 20:34:42 UTC  

Some Account (Not a Fed) - Today at 4:26 PM
You can have a high minimum wage and open borders, but only if you have virtually no welfare. The minimum wage and lack of welfare disincentives emigration

2018-05-30 20:34:47 UTC  

t.corporation

2018-05-30 20:34:48 UTC  

another assumption here is that minimum wage laws won't be broken

2018-05-30 20:34:53 UTC  

they already are for migrants