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Kinda hard for the heads of groups to contact organizers they didn't know where a thing.
Especially since to my knowledge no information about official organizers was put out.
Yeah it's not like they knew kessler was organizing
Did people just put the speakers' names on the fliers without telling them what was going on?
@I'm Not Sam Hyde its not like kessler didn't know who he invited to speak
Did Kessler say anything to anyone about official security planners or organization?
It's facing the wrong way though
Maybe ask kessler lol
So you don't even know? Wonderful, I am feeling more confident about all this official stuff every minute.
terrible planning..terrible organizatoin
No I wouldn't know about kessler private interactions any more than you would
This should be an entertaining shit show if no one bothers to be on the same page or even make sure people are on the same page.
It sounds like the groups going have made more effots to organize with each other than the official organizers have made to organize with anyone.
@lolyouwish its all good they have 20 guys who claim to be heads of security here...they got this!
It's gonna be like Bluto winging it in Animal House
fuck i may be a head of security for all i know
Well I guess if we need security we will yell for them. Otherwise I suppose we fall back on inter-group plans since that is where the organizing seems to be taking place.
it just seems pretty poor planning to have not contacted the respective organizations leaders so everybody is on the same plan
I think it's that new "Free Jazz Interpretive Planning" technique I read about in Harper's, @WhiteTrash
You should definitely take this up with McCarthy in the morning, he'd love to answer your questions
i tried to and he said a blanket statement then left
thats how this whole conversation got started in public
88% of the time it works 14% of the time
while i tried to keep in pms
It sounds like McCarthy needs to take it up with the respective leaders of the attending groups, because somehow I doubt they even know he exists in any official capacity.
*No one cared who I was until I didn't plan the event*
Your complaints have been taken under advisement
stay up north yankee
we got this shit in the south
Yeah, pointing out you guys need to let the people in charge of the hundres and thousands of people going what is going on is really complaining.
go rot in your nigger infested detroit
Because if you think for a minute a couple hundred League boys are going to care how official your security detail is unless the higher ups recognize it and know what is going on, I don't know what to tell you.
Same with TWP, VA, and any of the other groups.
this all started by me pm'ng a question to mccarthy just for him to curse at me and then make a big public scene about it in here....then proceed to leave after starting a shitstorm
If no one knows who you are or what your plan is, then it doesn't matter at all.
Again, as far as I'm aware, the plans have been made available on the public event page
@lolyouwish "Who we are doesn't matter, what matters is our pla--oh, crap..."
Most people don't look to the event page for official information, especially considering in most cases no one puts official sensistive information on them because Antifa is watching them.
Typically if there are official organizers, they are expected to be proactive and reach out to the people involved and make sure they are up to speed.
lolyouwish needs to be on our bowl patrol
>not looking at the event page for information regarding the event
<:bowlcut:330193760644497409> BOWL PATROL <:bowlcut:330193760644497409>
nigga you think i use kikebook
>advertising sensitive security stuff publicly
what do you take me for
Nigger you think I give a fuck who you even are?
you guys encouraging people to use kikebook fucked a bunch of people out of their airbnbs
Wait, have you guys seriously been putting sensitive information regarding the event and plans on the event page?
Are you literally retarded?
This chat is for organizers to decide what info gets released?
Well if they ahve been, I can't see them for wall the random people commenting.
If every little brain fart in this chat was released wed have a shit show to dwarf all other shit shows
Which is another reason you shouldn't rely on event pages to pass along official information, it is quickly lost in a sea of hundreds of people commenting.
i should've listened to what my momma told me about those yankee northern folk
I think my chain has been Yankee'd
Dude you cannot possibly be this inept
You have to be arguing in bad faith
No, to be completely honest it kinda sounds like you guys have been inept since no one outside this Discord knows your official security stuff exists.
And you have been talking about people checking an event page for information that is swamped with random comments.
How long have you been in this channel?
"She doesn't even go here!" -I'm not Sam Hyde
A few months or so. To be honest I largely tune it out except to periodically check channels for information considering the amount of random bullshit and @ everyone spamming that goes on.
Is this the part where you criticize me for somehow not paying attention to your poor organization to detract from the point that none of you bothered to contact the people bringing the participants about your plans?
I feel like that is where this is headed.
So, you tune out the channel with pertinent information to an event, and then get mad days out from the event when you don't have information
Yep, called it.
I'm not mad at all.
Bemused would be more accurate.
I get the feeling that official or not, your plans aren't really going to amount to squat since you only seem to be official to yourselves.
i'm king of the world
and my royal authority trumps all of your opinions
let me put on my crown
I just stole the "Head Bowlnigga in Charge of Security" title from right under you when you weren't looking, @WhiteTrash
I'm not sure who though
i guess i'm court jester
let me get on my court jester hat
⛪ <:harambe:321790332008267788> 🔫 <:bowlcut:330193760644497409>
I get the feeling there are going to be a lot of irrelevant security guys standing around waving their arms while screaming "respect mah authortai!"
AM I BEING BOWLTAINED!?
I WANT TO TALK TO MY BOWLYER
HE DIDN'T ROOF ME MY DYLRANDA RIGHTS
Seriously though, it is sad when the individual groups going are coordinating and organizing with one another more than the actual official organizers are.
Bowl Patrol gonna be out in force, with or without *muh clearance*
So for all this talk about "pertinant information" I went and checked the pinned messages in all the relevant channels. Not one thing about not showing up early. I saw a call asking for security, but haven't seen anything pinned about there being official security details.
In a call
Can barely see muh name
there is one but i lost it when i got kicked for asking azzmador to speak
yeah i know this color was the worst possible one they could've picked
I bet he had a good time at Chippendale's
Yeah, hearing back from a few of my higher ups.
No one knew these "official" organizers existed.
great communication and organization!
The official organizers were Keyser Soze the whole time
the greatest trick the bowl ever pulled was convincing the world that he existed
This honestly explains why everyone and their mothers thinks they are the primary organizers and all the groups have just been working among themselves. Because the official organizers didn't bother to let anyone know they existed.
anyways i gotta get some rest so i can work nightshift tomorrow
lets try to unite the right and communicate with all the groups involved
@WhiteTrash I am not sure who you think is not being communicated with, but we have had leadership meetings every week for the last month, and everyone in those meetings was made aware of the word not to show up early multiple times. If people do show up early the police will not allow them into the park.
Well apparently the actual leadership of the various groups haven't been informed because different groups are coordinating together to show up early and discuss event tactics, and the people I've heard back from in the League have no clue this official security planning thing existed.
And the only outreach anyone can reference is messages that may or may not have been posted among the hundreds on the event page, which no one pays attention to since it is a shit show.
So from where I am standing, it really looks like the official organizers dropped the ball.
What groups specificly?
LS, TWP, and VA that I know of.
All three of those groups are folded into the larger plan. Their leadership have been at every single leadership meeting.
You are spreading fake news. Stop it now.
Really? I was unaware Dr Hill was in this Discord server, and my recruiter who has been helping us plan League activities has no clue this official planning thing exists.
I'm not spreading fake news at all.
I am saying the people I am hearing back from have no clue this is going on.
And Heimbach himself has made comments on Facebook about working with LS to get there early.
LS has a liason on this server, if your leadership is passing you bad info that is your problem. Heimbach is aware of the security plan.
Then it seems people are disregarding your security plan, because last I heard the plan was we were getting there early.
So I don't know what to tell you.
I will leave it at this, becuase this is not a productive conversation. If people show up ahead of the main security force they will either not be allowed into the inner cordon by the police, or will be physically removed before our permit starts at 10.
Look, I'll stop. I'm just letting you know that if my leadership says "Hey, we are getting there early" then I'm gonna be there early.
Physically removed by whom and in what capacity?
physically removed by the police, as in a trespass order
So you are going to have multiple speakers for the event and their respective groups removed for trespassing for not following your plan?
That sounds like a good way to start shit personally.
Physical removal? Buncha fascists!
No. That is the intent of police.
I see. Well we will see how it plays out I guess.
They do not want us to have confrontations with antifa
Antifa was going to try to occupy the park in order to try to shut down the event
Literal Fun Police
So instead of us having to confront them first thing in the morning, the police said that the park will be closed until our event starts. If anyone gets inside prior to 10 they will be removed.
If they don't let us into the actual event area I doubt that will be a problem, I am sure no one has a problem waiting and making a presence around the park. I highly doubt anyone will be removed for trespassing prior to the actual permit time.
Then we wait outside, sounds fine to me.
I'm there, Bowlther
Vladislav and Illegal will be too
Do what you want. This is not a productive conversation. There was a reason why the instructions were laid out the way they were. If people want to agitate by showing up early, fine. It has been made clear that the littlest provocation will get the whole thing shoahed which is why we told all the security personel to march in with the main force at 10.
Well that is where you are wrong. I'm not doing what I want, I'm following the directions of my leadership. If they say wait, I wait. If they say we are getting there early, we are getting there early. I'm not sure who your liason is, but from what I've seen the various groups aren't aware of any central coordination and working among themselves independently of this server. I.E. Heimbach saying he is showing up early with TWP and the League.
Hell last time I talked to my state Chairman about security for the event, he said the primary organizers were the Virginia League. So I kinda doubt he is aware you guys exist either.
There is an official Op Order and all organizations should follow it. Vanguard plans to disseminate it and follow it. The security liaisons from TWP and LS should have that order also and should be disseminating it to they're organizations.
As I said, I'll wait and see. I'm just voicing concern based on what I've seen and heard. If I am wrong and everyone is on the same page, disregard me.
I understand. There is an official security plan and all organizational leadership should have a copy. They need to pass along the pertinent info. You may need to inquire with them.
Here is hoping it all goes more smoothly than this did.
Yea no shit
For a bunch of so called fascists you all sound like a bunch of damn athenian democrats
Niggas need to learn to follow orders
Orders are don't go early, click your heels and do as you're told
So Airbnb released a statement
You're all dirty NSM sluts and deserve the street
So sayeth their shit globalist CEO
I know that I'll never be using their service in the future
Are you fucking serious
Well time to get boycott airbnb all fucking over social media
Apparently they have also locked down reservations in the area. People have said they can't reserve locations in and around cville anymore.
Lol they don't care about people, just their image
Who waited until a week out to find lodging?? Lol
Stannis, you behave like a cunt.
They didn't, they tried rebooking through someone else.
Eat my ass
Sorry but low agency gets low results
Making jokes about UTR members getting kicked out of their lodging is fucking retarded
That is hardly a criticism on their part, and clearly criticizing the wrong party
Do you agree with Airbnb's move then?
Using airbnb in the first place was a poor choice
Or antifa', to call in and cancel these reservations
I'd sleep in my truck if I had to in order to not miss this
And I'll be patrolling at night, making sure people crashing in their cars don't get jumped. Good on you, Stannis
You fucking jew
Don't be a thin skinned faggot
This has consequences
Stannis is a good guy. He slept in my living room for NO. We all can be autistic at times
He's being particularly retarded
Let it go guys
Coddling those who make poor choices does not discourage poor decision making
seriously. Steady as she goes, men. This is the final week.
We are huwyte guys and we have agency. We also face our own consequences for good/bad decisions
That's a lovely sentiment, I'm sure it'll help people who wanted to support the rally
We also are a community
I'm noticing how supportive certain people are
@The Goy Scout Yes. I agree. That's why it you disagree with someone, you voice your disagreement and concerns, and then you move on and avoid conflict. The enemy is those who oppose us. We must stand together without internal conflict or with as little as possible
A certain amount of infighting and disagreement is fine, but let's save it for after the event as much as possible.
My concern is with those displaced who are still going
People who may have to sleep in their cars now. I'm working with people to make sure every head is on a pillow, but this is a large rally. It's out of the reach of staff at some point
Guys, help, a jew bit me and now my nose is growing and i have the sudden urge to pick up every penny i see on the sidewalk....
This event should teach us the important lesson of organization. Everyone should link up with their local pool party or chapter or group. Get vetted, stay in contact. When stuff like this comes up, you'll have resources and people you help out.
The organizing has gone really well
Isn't there an AirBnB alternative out there?
Wal-Mart will let you sleep in the parking lot in your car
Oh yeah, I'm not counter signaling. For those of us who are new to the alt right... myself included. It taught me the importance of local organising. Building your tribe
Has anyone looked into a state or federal park nearby with camping fasciitis?
A government run facility can't deny you service.
We'd hope it couldn't deny people, it would only be too retarded if some state rep went "nah"
it's peak camping time
Honestly a private company isn't supposed to be allowed to deny lodging based on political beliefs either....
Found one in gladstone and cumberland
Still looks like 100$ or so rooms are available. Split that 4 ways isn't bad
Lake Anna might be the closest
@The Goy Scout Yeah but it takes an attorney to enforce laws with private entities. A government facility simply can't do it.
Did you look at the statement they gave, scout?
I saw it briefly
All of you guys looking for camping on government campgrounds should post your findings on the lodging channel and spread it through the community ... but be careful because Antifa might catch wind and cause problems by intruding on your camp or by staging protests at the grounds
they don't want anyone who opposes the political party of Airbnb Community Commitment
I'd say exercise your right to carry and sleep in shifts as well, if you're camping
Jumping someone in their sleep is violent extremism, make no mistake
The West end of Richmond is only an hour away for people who need something last minute.
Go to the gym after work. Or you are fucking up